Rod Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: I honestly have no idea . but I do know slavery was not a issue worth dying for when no one you knew could even afford a slave . you were much more likely to be a indentured servant than have any one in your family own a slave . like I said the people paying the bills may have been fighting for the right to own people but that was not even close to all they or the solder was fighting for . and IMHO they were not wrong if you take the ownership of people out of the equation. in fact Montonogans peeps are still fighting for a lot of what the south were fighting for I think Robert Lee set his slaves free before the war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 The most ironic thing about it was those boys had their jobs taken by immigrants imported by rich business owners because the local labor was too expensive. It was in the poor white Southerners' interest to end slavery. Yet they were convinced to fight to continue it. It's like history just repeats itself. Our wars today are stunningly similar when you look at who fights, who suffered, and who benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: The most ironic thing about it was those boys had their jobs taken by immigrants imported by rich business owners because the local labor was too expensive. It was in the poor white Southerners' interest to end slavery. Yet they were convinced to fight to continue it. It's like history just repeats itself. Our wars today are stunningly similar when you look at who fights, who suffered, and who benefits. Can you list your sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: I think Robert Lee set his slaves free before the war? it was actually 10 years before the war started but don't bring that up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Ez ryder said: it was actually 10 years before the war started but don't bring that up . Interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Can you list your sources? Hightimes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Can you list your sources? No. This is commonly known history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: The most ironic thing about it was those boys had their jobs taken by immigrants imported by rich business owners because the local labor was too expensive. It was in the poor white Southerners' interest to end slavery. Yet they were convinced to fight to continue it. It's like history just repeats itself. Our wars today are stunningly similar when you look at who fights, who suffered, and who benefits. bullshit the good old boys were never picking cotton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: bullshit the good old boys were never picking cotton Lol. Check your history, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, motonoggin said: No. This is commonly known history. no it is not. it is your assumptions biased on your view of the human condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, motonoggin said: No. This is commonly known history. Just like how the democrats are liberals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Poor whites and slaves worked alongside each other in the fields. In fact, there was fears amongst the rich whites of a slave rebellion, and that poor whites would help. Pretty interesting how that all went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lol. Check your history, bud. I lived in Jackson for some time and have always been fascinated by history . I have a pretty good grasp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Poor whites and slaves worked alongside each other in the fields. In fact, there was fears amongst the rich whites of a slave rebellion, and that poor whites would help. Pretty interesting how that all went down. most of your cotton pickers were women and kids . cotton was not the only money to be made in the south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: most of your cotton pickers were women and kids . cotton was not the only money to be made in the south And slavery had set a ceiling on wages for poor whites, regardless of the type of work. This is when the concept of white supremacy was used to divide the poor whites from black slaves. Over 100,000 Confederate soldiers deserted during the war, most of them poor whites who weren't about to fight a rich man's war. Edited August 19, 2017 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: And slavery had set a ceiling on wages for poor whites, regardless of the type of work. This is when the concept of white supremacy was used to divide the poor whites from black slaves. Over 100,000 Confederate soldiers deserted during the war, most of them poor whites who weren't about to fight a rich man's war. they left for many reasons . not excluding having to take supply's by force from poor and rich alike . not having any food not having any shoes and being expected to fight with inadequate arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: One of the mops chimes in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 57 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: Hightimes . Without question ANTIFA daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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