jtssrx Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) People like her and her father are responsible for the deaths of Millions. But Snowden and Assange are the traitors lol Edited December 14, 2020 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 i still struggle with Snowden. While our intelligence gathering within the US and the FISA court joke could be considered whistleblowing his blowing up legitimate intelligence gathering outside our shores happened as well and punishment for that is deserved as foreigners do not have the same rights as Americans. Even Ollies movie about him which i watched over the weekend failed to really justify his actions. I do think Assange should be given a pass as he has no legal or moral obligation to be a puppet of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: i still struggle with Snowden. While our intelligence gathering within the US and the FISA court joke could be considered whistleblowing his blowing up legitimate intelligence gathering outside our shores happened as well and punishment for that is deserved as foreigners do not have the same rights as Americans. Even Ollies movie about him which i watched over the weekend failed to really justify his actions. I do think Assange should be given a pass as he has no legal or moral obligation to be a puppet of the US. I watched the rogan interview with Snowden. I wasn’t very impressed with him as a person. His motives, at least now, appear very self serving. I don’t however, disagree with most of what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: I watched the rogan interview with Snowden. I wasn’t very impressed with him as a person. His motives, at least now, appear very self serving. I don’t however, disagree with most of what he did. Stones movie made me feel the same way. I listened to the Rogan interview as well and while he has some valid points about his actions the totality of what he released and the method was wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: Stones movie made me feel the same way. I listened to the Rogan interview as well and while he has some valid points about his actions the totality of what he released and the method was wrong. As long as separate nations are a thing, secrecy and espionage are necessary evils. There are some very bad players in the world. Actually worse than the US. I think Snowden is fucking full of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Snowden should receive a full pardon and a ride back from Russia on the president's plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: As long as separate nations are a thing, secrecy and espionage are necessary evils. There are some very bad players in the world. Actually worse than the US. I think Snowden is fucking full of himself. yup. whether allie or enemy our inteligence gathering overseas is very important and Snowden fucked that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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