mnstang

I'm not back reading your dribble. If you have factual evidence that shows none of the snow that they deflect can possibly end up back in the track or tunnel area, I will certainly listen to it. As far as your other questions.. again, be better. Skidoo not offering tunnel flares for skidoo snowmobiles which may or may not have cooling issues or snow spray issues means absolutely zero to me and is not even close to proving anything about an issue with an Arctic Cat brand snowmobile. You're getting worse with every post, just stop. Again, not putting crap on my snowmobile because there's nothing wrong with my snowmobile. And because I don't actually care. I just want you to be better. If you can't actually disprove a claim then you're better off not making proclamations of fact that you can't back up.

Right, so "in theory" since tunnel flares are also designed to deflect snow.. Snow conditions vary by the hour, certainly in different states as well with different amounts of snow, traffic, different grooming, and different snow itself. Your one day of testing only proves they didn't make a difference for you on that day on that machine on those trails at that time with your riding style. That's it. You haven't presented any other facts in this case to disprove his claims. Name calling and sarcasm doesn't win debates. Here is more people experimenting with tunnel flares to help with cooling. It's interesting the productive discussion that can happen when people don't act like rabid dog packs. https://www.arcticchat.com/threads/tunnel-flares.480537/

I will not and don't have a dog in the fight. I just like poking holes in arguments.

Oooohhhh.. so you think deflecting snow with a snowflap helps with cooling? Interesting.

I'm not making the claim but I'm also not claiming they don't work for that. I can see a way how it's possible but I haven't tested it nor care to. But if someone did test it and had those results I'd have no reason to not believe it, I don't think he has anything to gain by fabricating this story out of thin air. You're just being tribal and you'll never grow being like that. If it was one of your friends in your internet clique group saying it you'd go right along with it. And your analogy fails. Whether the claim is true or not, the person making it has first hand experience. That's not lore that's one person's first hand experience. Again, you're trying to twist a situation to fit your desired outcome.

Yes I am capable of reading an intended purpose. Are you capable of understanding an unintentional result/side effect? Or an alternative use for a product? Never heard of such concepts? Baseball bats can be used as home defense. Multi tools. Ivermectin. Ignorant if you're going with an argument of it's not the intended purpose therefore it can't possibly have a secondary affect. I will not stand for your low IQ arguments, be better.

I'm guessing it's because the zrt got it first in 04. Didn't it come on the firecat for 05? I've heard rumors some of the 05+ zrs came threaded, but my 05 did not. I actually didn't have a problem with mine but updated it anyway as preventative. When I went to replace it the set screws rounded out and I had to drill them out, good riddance. It was a pretty dumb design. I'm sure a lot of the failures were also from owners not locking it down tight all the way too.

I don't even know what you idiots are arguing but it's funny that your types will discredit what cat says when it's convenient for you to do that, but then stick to what they say as if it's the TDS bible when it suits you in other ways. I have an 05 I bought new. It gets a good trail ride only 1&2 times a year nowadays but I keep it maintained and it's so fun to ride. Jags for the tighter twisty stuff and the 900 for the higher speed twisties. An unbeatable duo.

You can still update it, parts are through BDX like they always were. Yes the original lock collar design was less than ideal. As was the clutch calibration. Which is hard to believe because these were made in the heart of "OLD GUARD" timeline when apparently everything was always perfect according to TDS folks and the thief river was actually flowing with the squirt of all the engineers wives because the engineers were just that ungodly good. The DD zrs were way better to ride.

Funny how Internet lore becomes reality for some people. Any time someone on FB asks about zr900's, all the experts who know nothing come on and say to only get an 03 because of the chain case vs diamond drive. But they're just repeating what they've heard from people repeating what they've heard. Lore becomes reality.

Just go to hell already

Correct

They probably don't have world class tuna

Funny though that the catalyst 600 is ranked above the skidoo in the engine/power category according to the snowtrax review, skidoo was last. In 15 years when the 5 speed runners get their hands on a catalyst maybe then they can try for a new world record.

If anyone with money to buy sleds cared about 1000' radar running, the oems could easily make sleds do that and they'd dominate. It's not hard. But the only people who care about radar runs are people that don't even ride. They're not even snowmobilers just posers. This guy pictured his zrt in his driveway, guy lives in cookie cutter suburb shitville beta land with a strip of grass between houses guy can't even ride down his own road. Radar running the lowest form of competition, not even racing it is speed running you could be slower to the finish line but still "win" wow do you iv inject the soy straight in or?? No matter what mph your sled runs you still have to go home to your beta subdivision every day and come on why is it on the track stand if you were running it all your neighbors would be calling your association just more posing

Stay in your underachiever zrt lane bub

Global warming is over and now we're heading into an ice age, just look at the weather today. It is our job to counteract this by riding our polluting snowmobiles every time the climate changes to ice age mode. It's a constantly changing climate change.

Well you should tell everyone the OEM thing isn't a reliability advantage, because that was the sentiment just a few posts up. Sure there's outliers like the Polaris 800 that were maybe less reliable than the norm but I'd argue that's still in a different league compared to the aftermarket. Just imagine if an aftermarket had to make an engine from scratch and they'd have to understand the materials to use and where, the tolerances, the proper sizes and ratios for different parts and reasons behind it, the ways to build things so they go through all the ranges of heat and warming up at different rates. (Forged piston 4 corner seizure, bueller?). There are things that successful engine builders know that you only know if you've ever built engines and gone through it many times over. Experience matters in every profession. That's why I think doing hop ups is one thing but getting into aftermarket cylinders, changing the design of the motor, is a complete roll of the dice because these people just don't know. Anyone who has expertise at something has seen people that think they have it figured out but are so entry level that they don't even know what they don't know. And they're the most dangerous people for that reason. I don't claim to know but I think I know when to defer to the experts. There's a guy making Z pro pistons for all the years but when I asked how that can be when OEM used 3 pistons in those years and what the difference was he didn't even know the difference and I'm not ragging on the guy maybe the differences are inconsequential but like I said you don't know what you don't know. You have anecdotal evidence because you ran a big bore f7 at 9200 rpm and it didn't explode. I'd bet alot that the Polaris 800 is still way way more reliable than your big bore was, at scale. I'm not saying anything is bad to do if you're accepting the risk I just find it funny people think an SSI big bore 900 kit slapped on a 600 will be just as good as an oem motor. It's a giant risk in comparison. If you can't see that then we just disagree.

Better check again, I was assured by people here with DYNO results backing that that would be way too high of RPM. It was possibly in this thread.

I'm not saying there aren't sharp guys out there, that's where you guys get so sensitive. Deep haven said it's a bunch of stock parts to hop something up, that's the definition of bolting stuff together, no? And even if someone's very sharp, comment still stands about the comparison to an actual engine manufacturer. It's not that hard to make fix kits. The fact that some of these kits brag about using "stock parts" proves my point further. Saying that infers reliability to people for a reason. If it didn't they wouldn't say it.

Are you saying it's a thing that some places might get conveniently burned for insurance money? Because I've wondered that before with some places but didn't know if it was a thing or if others suspected this of maybe happening.

Indy Dan, didn't you just post about a twisted crank from him. I doubt Dan has 1% of the resources and knowledge base of an OEM engine manufacturer when it comes to building an engine. Anyone can bolt some stuff together and sometimes it works, not saying it can't ever work. You guys are touchy about your horsepower heros. Dyno Dan! Lol

I'm not commenting on an iron dog kit. Know nothing about it. I'm speaking on general terms. But it's funny how you're the number one guy afraid of first year oem engines but you're apparently good with a shade tree cobble job. My first post on this topic applies to you