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Well they sell liquor in convenience stores here so no worries. Those aren't getting shut down.

I'm guessing at least a small % of deaths from other causes are being attributed to covid19.

As have I with Trump you just can't let your personal feelings see or remember that.

Well coming from someone who ate Obama's dingleberries on a daily basis thats priceless. You think Obama gave a fuck about you?

Interesting. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/well/live/coronavirus-doctors-hospitals-emergency-care-heart-attack-stroke.html The hospitals are eerily quiet, except for Covid-19. I have heard this sentiment from fellow doctors across the United States and in many other countries. We are all asking: Where are all the patients with heart attacks and stroke? They are missing from our hospitals. Yale New Haven Hospital, where I work, has almost 300 people stricken with Covid-19, and the numbers keep rising — and yet we are not yet at capacity because of a marked decline in our usual types of patients. In more normal times, we never have so many empty beds. Our hospital is usually so full that patients wait in gurneys along the walls of the emergency department for a bed to become available on the general wards or even in the intensive care unit. We send people home from the hospital as soon as possible so we can free up beds for those who are waiting. But the pandemic has caused a previously unimaginable shift in the demand for hospital services. Some of the excess capacity is indeed by design. We canceled elective procedures, though many of those patients never needed hospitalization. We are now providing care at home through telemedicine, but those services are for stable outpatients, not for those who are acutely ill What is striking is that many of the emergencies have disappeared. Heart attack and stroke teams, always poised to rush in and save lives, are mostly idle. This is not just at my hospital. My fellow cardiologists have shared with me that their cardiology consultations have shrunk, except those related to Covid-19. In an informal Twitter poll by @angioplastyorg, an online community of cardiologists, almost half of the respondents reported that they are seeing a 40 percent to 60 percent reduction in admissions for heart attacks; about 20 percent reported more than a 60 percent reduction. And this is not a phenomenon specific to the United States. Investigators from Spain reported a 40 percent reduction in emergency procedures for heart attacks during the last week of March compared with the period just before the pandemic hit. And it may not just be heart attacks and strokes. Colleagues on Twitter report a decline in many other emergencies, including acute appendicitis and acute gall bladder disease. The most concerning possible explanation is that people stay home and suffer rather than risk coming to the hospital and getting infected with coronavirus. This theory suggests that Covid-19 has instilled fear of face-to-face medical care. As a result, many people with urgent health problems may be opting to remain at home rather than call for help. And when they do finally seek medical attention, it is often only after their condition has worsened. Doctors from Hong Kong reported an increase in patients coming to the hospital late in the course of their heart attack, when treatment is less likely to be lifesaving.

His entire pro America on trade and tough on illegal immigration doctrine has been spot the fuck on.

Bravo...you sound like Ben.

Why is that funny?

With all the routine daily care not going on in preparation for a surge in the virus its a odd situation. They should be paid and handled thru the ppp or a version specifically for hc workers.

Kind of like with Cats.....he's not worth having a conversation on this with.

No they don't. Its not an apples to apples comparison with how society has changed the way we've lived.

You are flat out wrong.

No it does not. You are comparing a flu season of 6 months or more 1-1.5 months for this. On top of that besides vaccinating we really don't do much for the flu. For this we shut down significant sections of the economy and made human contact far less. Saying its the same as the flu is being obtuse to the facts. If a couple billion people worldwide end up with this we could see 10,000,000 lose their lives. 10x's what the flu kills.

By hardly I wasn't meaning trending downward. I meant that it was hardly a bust. Considering the amount of fatalities in the short amount of time and the extreme precautions that were taken its hardly a bust.

Hardly.

For the most part. Shopping at our local smaller store. Vastly fewer people. Trying to go only once a week or less.

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Not sure what the worlds response to China needs to be but it must be significant. https://nypost.com/2020/03/20/who-haunted-by-old-tweet-saying-china-found-no-human-transmission-of-coronavirus/ The World Health Organization (WHO) is now haunted by a tweet it sent earlier this year when it cited Chinese health officials who claimed there had been no human transmissions of the novel coronavirus within the country yet. The Jan. 14 tweet came less than two months before WHO declared COVID-19 to be a global pandemic. “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China,” the organization had said. It also relied on information from Chinese health authorities who have been accused of obscuring facts and figures during the course of the outbreak.

Militarily wise I could care less. Its not our problem. Protect the homeland.

What a wonderful country. https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-italy-coronavirus-supplies-buy-back After telling the world that it would donate masks, face guards and testing equipment to Italy, China quietly backtracked and sold the Mediterranean country desperately-needed medical equipment, according to a report. What's worse is that the personal protective equipment (PPE) China forced Italy to buy was actually the same PPE Italy donated to China before coronavirus rushed its own shores and killed nearly 16,000 people.

A significant portion of military funding should be going to creating national stockpiles and debt reduction. Bring our boys and girls home. World....you're on your own.

Great fucking post. Someone gets it. Cuomo keeps making promises of giving back double to places that help NY. Promises he simply cannot keep. Save us and risk killing those in your area. What I hear everytime he talks.

Not saying it isn't going to be ugly just arguing we are a ways from full economic collapse.

(Knocks on wood) so far in eastern iowa mfg has been fortunate. One large Ag mfg shut down for 2 days for a positive test. One furniture mfg but not for a positive test...they were slow going in. Vast majority of construction shops not slowing down. Those 2 industries alone employ a significant portion of non service work in this part of the state. Ag has to keep going. Key is the processing plants staying open. If not lots of little pigs will be euthanized because there will be nowhere to put them if they shut down.