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[Plissken]

28 minutes ago, Roosting said:

Gas contributes to emissions, nuclear is a nimby no go, hydro has environmental issues.

None of those are going to change anything.

This thread isn’t about hippy dippy save the planet ra ra ra.  We’re petrol heads.  This thread is all about how we can get JT less expensive fuel to power his inefficiently hulled lake tractor to whatever eateries remain after the wrath of Whitler and still have money left over to dine there.  To that end, I say converting as much of our transportation sector to electric as possible, lowering demand for petrol is a great start.  Go be hippy somewhere else.  

Edited April 24, 2021 by Plissken

[racer254]

On 4/23/2021 at 4:50 PM, Plissken said:

Natural gas, nuclear, and hydro come to mind.  Not to mention Musk’s systems.

 

Great, Nuclear would be a great energy source for the US, but again, the US isn't building them like other less developed countries

[Ez ryder]

On 4/24/2021 at 12:46 PM, Plissken said:

This thread isn’t about hippy dippy save the planet ra ra ra.  We’re petrol heads.  This thread is all about how we can get JT less expensive fuel to power his inefficiently hulled lake tractor to whatever eateries remain after the wrath of Whitler and still have money left over to dine there.  To that end, I say converting as much of our transportation sector to electric as possible, lowering demand for petrol is a great start.  Go be hippy somewhere else.  

Yeah just plug your shit in to a current bush  

Just gave 92bucks to fill the Ford 15 min ago . Will do it again orob Thursday but betting will be just handing over 1 bill and be getting silver back at best 

[Angry ginger]

45 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

Yeah just plug your shit in to a current bush  

Just gave 92bucks to fill the Ford 15 min ago . Will do it again orob Thursday but betting will be just handing over 1 bill and be getting silver back at best 

so about the same as you were paying 2 years ago under Trump.  But hey it's all joes fault.  SMH

[racer254]

2 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

so about the same as you were paying 2 years ago under Trump.  But hey it's all joes fault.  SMH

Under trump, gas was between 2 and 3 dollars a gallon.  Do you actually think biden will be able to say the same?

[Angry ginger]

27 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Under trump, gas was between 2 and 3 dollars a gallon.  Do you actually think biden will be able to say the same?

IMO what we have seen here is a normalization of a market that was artificially low because of covid.  I don't believe that prices would have been significantly lower if trump was in office given the restart of the economy.   We will see what Bidens policies bring over the next 2 years,  they are so bad in so many different ways it's going to be hard to tell which one fucks us.     

[racer254]

7 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

IMO what we have seen here is a normalization of a market that was artificially low because of covid.  I don't believe that prices would have been significantly lower if trump was in office given the restart of the economy.   We will see what Bidens policies bring over the next 2 years,  they are so bad in so many different ways it's going to be hard to tell which one fucks us.     

Ok, say you are correct, pandemic caused lower gas prices and now it is getting back to pre covid levels,  Normalization. Sure.

Now, what about the prices of building materials?  Is that normalization as well?

Edited April 26, 2021 by racer254

[Angry ginger]

27 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Ok, say you are correct, pandemic caused lower gas prices and now it is getting back to pre covid levels,  Normalization. Sure.

Now, what about the prices of building materials?  Is that normalization as well?

there is a lot of greed in there and was happening before Joe took office.  Building materials over the course of the last 12 months have seen some of their biggest increases ever and 9 months of that was with don in office.  

 

[1jkw]

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

Under trump, gas was between 2 and 3 dollars a gallon.  Do you actually think biden will be able to say the same?

And more than 2015 and 2016 prior to the pandemic.

[racer254]

6 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

And more than 2015 and 2016 prior to the pandemic.

It was between 2 and 3 dollars a gallon during trump according to this.   Here is a link

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

Edited April 26, 2021 by racer254

[1jkw]

37 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Ok, say you are correct, pandemic caused lower gas prices and now it is getting back to pre covid levels,  Normalization. Sure.

Now, what about the prices of building materials?  Is that normalization as well?

 Low output do to covid, large demand due to low interest rates, people willing to pay and companies willing to charge high prices to people who are willing to pay.

[1jkw]

Just now, racer254 said:

It was between 2 and 3 dollars a gallon.  Here is a link

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

Still higher than 2015 and 2016. Aren't you bitching because it is higher now? Did you bitch when it went up under Trump? NO you didn't.

[racer254]

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

 Low output do to covid, large demand due to low interest rates, people willing to pay and companies willing to charge high prices to people who are willing to pay.

biden policies are causing the price of gas to go higher than just normalization.

[racer254]

Just now, 1jkw said:

Still higher than 2015 and 2016. Aren't you bitching because it is higher now? Did you bitch when it went up under Trump? NO you didn't.

Yes I did.  I think you must be thinking of someone else.

[racer254]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Still higher than 2015 and 2016. Aren't you bitching because it is higher now? Did you bitch when it went up under Trump? NO you didn't.

Yes, the price of gas was dropping before the election, because of the election.

[1jkw]

Just now, racer254 said:

biden policies are causing the price of gas to go higher than just normalization.

Bullshit, prices went up under Trump compared to 2015 and 2016 despite tax cuts and deregulation. Regular is now 2.99 here nearly the same as 2018.  Companies are rebounding from the losses they took during the shut downs.

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

Yes, the price of gas was dropping before the election, because of the election.

No, low demand, the reason Trump pressured SA to cut production. 

Biden was favored to win before the election.  Trump predicted a drop in the stock market if he lost, it didn't was that because of Biden's policies.

[racer254]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Bullshit, prices went up under Trump compared to 2015 and 2016 despite tax cuts and deregulation. Regular is now 2.99 here nearly the same as 2018.  Companies are rebounding from the losses they took during the shut downs.

And what about the 4 years before that?  3 to 4 dollars a gallon.  And that will be the same with biden.  Keep this prediction at the front of your cerebral cortex. 

[1jkw]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

And what about the 4 years before that?  3 to 4 dollars a gallon.  And that will be the same with biden.  Keep this prediction at the front of your cerebral cortex. 

Yes and then they went down, with the same president in charge, then went up when the president changed.

[racer254]

Just now, 1jkw said:

Yes and then they went down, with the same president in charge, then went up when the president changed.

greater than 3 dollars a gallon is NOT NORMAL.  Look at the chart.  It was only normal under obama and his policies.  biden is just another obama.

[1jkw]

7 minutes ago, racer254 said:

greater than 3 dollars a gallon is NOT NORMAL.  Look at the chart.  It was only normal under obama and his policies.  biden is just another obama.

Obama was president during 2015 and 2016 when gas prices were lower than anytime during Trump's term prior to the pandemic, that is a fact. 

Wind, solar, NG. fired generation plants, and electric cars all help curb demand for oil. 

[Ez ryder]

5 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

so about the same as you were paying 2 years ago under Trump.  But hey it's all joes fault.  SMH

I have not had a 100 buck gas bill in over 4 years.  I posted gas receipts some time back . It will be pushing 5 bucks before Joe is out of office in 3 yrs 

[racer254]

Obama and the dem policies have caused gas to be over 3 dollars a gallon.  The price of gas was never that high for that long before obama got into office.  Trump got in and kept the price under 3 dollars a gallon for 4 years.  Now, back to a dem and that price will again rise to over 3 dollars, maybe more. 

BUT 2015 and 2016?  But normalization, but but but.... Give it a rest.  Admit that dem policies will drive gas prices over 3 dollars a gallon.

[1jkw]

23 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Obama and the dem policies have caused gas to be over 3 dollars a gallon.  The price of gas was never that high for that long before obama got into office.  Trump got in and kept the price under 3 dollars a gallon for 4 years.  Now, back to a dem and that price will again rise to over 3 dollars, maybe more. 

BUT 2015 and 2016?  But normalization, but but but.... Give it a rest.  Admit that dem policies will drive gas prices over 3 dollars a gallon.

Every time I think you can't possibly be as stupid as your posts here make you seem, you prove me wrong.   Ever hear of "peak oil"? Look back at what gas prices were before the economic crash.

 

[racer254]

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Every time I think you can't possibly be as stupid as your posts here make you seem, you prove me wrong.   Ever hear of "peak oil"? Look back at what gas prices were before the economic crash.

 

Biden will push gas prices over 3 dollars a gallon for most of the time he is in office, just like obama did.  Hell, obama admitted that with the policies he pushed, energy prices will necessarily RISE.  They know it, I know it, and you know it.  Stop believing the excuses, because that's all they are is excuses.