spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/asia/china-mongolia-bubonic-plague-intl-hnk-scli-scn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 6, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2020 Same place Europe's Black Death (Bubonic) plague came from. Interesting theory that society become more violent as it cheapened life. Sounds familiar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague In the Late Middle Ages Europe experienced the deadliest disease outbreak in history when the Black Death, the infamous pandemic of bubonic plague, hit in 1347, killing a third of the European human population. Some historians believe that society subsequently became more violent as the mass mortality rate cheapened life and thus increased warfare, crime, popular revolt, waves of flagellants, and persecution.[33] The Black Death originated in Central Asia and spread from Italy and then throughout other European countries. Arab historians Ibn Al-Wardni and Almaqrizi believed the Black Death originated in Mongolia. Chinese records also showed a huge outbreak in Mongolia in the early 1330s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Same place Europe's Black Death (Bubonic) plague came from. Interesting theory that society become more violent as it cheapened life. Sounds familiar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubonic_plague In the Late Middle Ages Europe experienced the deadliest disease outbreak in history when the Black Death, the infamous pandemic of bubonic plague, hit in 1347, killing a third of the European human population. Some historians believe that society subsequently became more violent as the mass mortality rate cheapened life and thus increased warfare, crime, popular revolt, waves of flagellants, and persecution.[33] The Black Death originated in Central Asia and spread from Italy and then throughout other European countries. Arab historians Ibn Al-Wardni and Almaqrizi believed the Black Death originated in Mongolia. Chinese records also showed a huge outbreak in Mongolia in the early 1330s I agree. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Central America, Iraq I, Iraq II. Scores of proxy wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 6, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I agree. Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Central America, Iraq I, Iraq II. Scores of proxy wars. All pale in comparison to what I was referring to. Over 61 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: All pale in comparison to what I was referring to. Over 61 million. Oh. I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 The plague never left us, we have just been able to defeat it in most modern societies. It still pops up from time to time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Anler said: The plague never left us, we have just been able to defeat it in most modern societies. It still pops up from time to time All the evidence points to the reality that it wasn’t the bubonic plague which raced across Europe. At this point no one is really sure what it was. The idea of its spread was based on rats, vermin, and fleas. The gaping hole occurs when one considers that areas hit hardest were too cold to support rats, vermin and fleas. Also, the symptom profile was totally different. That leaves a big question. What the fuck was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 6, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: All the evidence points to the reality that it wasn’t the bubonic plague which raced across Europe. At this point no one is really sure what it was. The idea of its spread was based on rats, vermin, and fleas. The gaping hole occurs when one considers that areas hit hardest were too cold to support rats, vermin and fleas. Also, the symptom profile was totally different. That leaves a big question. What the fuck was it? Remember reading something about that. The way it spread fast across open area's makes one think it was bird related or carried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Remember reading something about that. The way it spread fast across open area's makes one think it was bird related or carried. It’s a very interesting topic. The entire thing was put to bed until a group of researchers started to uncover discrepancies in the reported symptoms from historical records. It’s possible that there might’ve been a number of diseases floating around during the same time period. At least that’s the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 6, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It’s a very interesting topic. The entire thing was put to bed until a group of researchers started to uncover discrepancies in the reported symptoms from historical records. It’s possible that there might’ve been a number of diseases floating around during the same time period. At least that’s the theory. I thought there was still a specific set of symptoms that the sick generally had including the bulbous sore or lymph-node. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Highmark said: I thought there was still a specific set of symptoms that the sick generally had including the bulbous sore or lymph-node. Rigor and blood pooling had set in to many that died alone or families that died together. The bodies would lay in homes or structures for days. The body collectors weren’t the brightest people and symptoms were easily mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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