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how about sorros? good dude?

if you really want to boil it all down , everything done by the west or Russia comes from the same place. there own interests. I'll play advocate of the devil here for ya ; Russia isn't taking all of Europe. they are defensive in this conflict and did not initiate it.will they take resources and land as a by product of that situation....of course.there not all altruistic or above benefitting as much as they can. never let a good crisis go to waste'. see covid 19 ' for a reference. the USA will not allow china to take Taiwan ...not because of 'protecting democracy ' or doing what's right ' like they will phrase it to the average idiot. they will protect it because they need the semi conductors needed for computer chips. end of story. right , wrong , whatever ...that's what's up with that.that is why they care. Israel is often where people I generally agree with branch off. I do not think there entitled or should be funded to carpet bomb kids on a grand scale. Im neither for that or Palestine.that things a mess with deep roots and if it was my call, I'd bring the Jews to the west and get them out of the region.thats the only thing I think will ever solve that issue. I know , gods chosen people and God gave us the land ' but look, how has it gone so far? time to leave.you are surrounded.it will never stop.lets not escalate to nukes and kill us all.come to the west instead.but that's my 2 cents. not Iran or anyone else should be nuking anyone.we all lose. there's some truth . real enough ? if you really want to know why the states , and the other western countries depending on there trade relations being all for wars against some of the bricks countries all over the planet, I got my theories too. you fuck the states currency and crush there country by no longer agreeing to trade oil in us bills, watch out then sir. they will liberate and rain down democracy like its no ones business. CNN will be right there to tell you its because racism , sexism , phobias and saving democracy..they will pull out every ism and phobe in there arsenal but one things for sure, you won't hear the real reasons.

and your point?

awe so were just not addressing what I said at all eh ? the cunty rofl was a nice touch. next time I have a point just say you got a boat and a forklift license. that'll really show me .

' ask the average Canadian in Montreal or Toronto and they will tell you girls can have dicks and guns painted black are a threat to the public. I'd take the average from anywheres opinion on anything with a grain of salt.

That's fine.im not in the business of educating the internet. Google it all yourself. None of this is a secret.

while we are being honest about russia's undermining of ukraines government, how about expanding that to include the west helping to overthrow ukraines elected government in the first place. Russia was in talks with the elected government in Ukraine and a referendum was promised at a later date regarding Crimea as the handing over of it to Ukraine was disputed and looked opon as a mistake. A sentiment shared by the elected government of Ukraine who realized the highest Russian populace in Ukraine felt it was the right thing to do and agreed to let them vote on it in the near future... of course that didn't get the chance to materialize because what happened in 13 '...yeah ...the west toppled that elected government and the new west backed government said no way, Russia said who the fuck are you to cancel said referendum, told the new west proxy government to suck its dick and annexed crimea. Annexed because the people there supported it. This was going to be put on the table democratically until the west said eh, that's not the democracy we like' and interfered with peaceful negotiations regarding the peninsula. but liberty and stuff ... lol.

You're right, Ukraine hasn't bent over and said do what you want like so many have advocated for since day one. And I agree, they wouldn't be able to completely push out Russia from their land unless they have NATO's help with boots on the ground, at the front line, which no one has an appetite for, including myself. ----well thank Jesus that hasn't happened. Here's the truth in it, both countries are among the most corrupt on the planet. Ukraine are not innocent in this and neither is the west. The media framed it as the poor brave Ukrainians fighting for there freedom and democracy against the evil tyrant Putin hell bent on taking over all of Europe like Hitler tried to do. his invasion is illegal, immoral , and completely unprovoked '. even a blind man can see this rhetoric is obviously slanted. WE shouldn't have been involved.If the west didn't back that coup in 13' none of this stuff would be happening right now.Thats the uncomfortable truth in this.the west wanted this to happen , and made it happen. the west made them escalate. truth is, if anyone is guilty of starting an unprovoked war, its NATO and its proxies. Russia didn't bring shit to our borders. Russia didn't overthrow our allies elected government. that's the facts here. ---- On a scale of 1 to 100, we're at about 5 as far as sacrifices being made by Americans. We're no where near 100 in your extreme example and it's never going there. All we're doing is giving them weapons until they're no longer are able to fight or are able to come to some amicable ceasefire. ---north of a 110 billion dollars of taxpayer money isn't a 5 percent effort.thats a considerable impact on your currencies value. you can't print that level of money and expect minimal impact on your economy. you feel it every day one way or another. the good news is despite you seeming to be clearly more leaning to the mainstream narrative, even people like you are admitting there's a ceiling to this. that gives me some hope that the machine is starting to fail and almost everyone can see hemorrhaging money until we are bankrupt isn't what's best for us. that being said, politicians rhetoric is one thing, you think all those dollars are going to kill people hell bent on world domination , or are they doing what the have to or else face the wraith of there own government? do Russians hug there children to ? do you think the average joe signing up for the military to feed his family is inherently evil depending on the patch on his sleeve? no one wins with sustained war except the cocksuckers profiting who ironically, will never step foot on a battlefield or send there privileged kids to either. the demons made there money, its time to stop the killing.---- I appreciate the dialogue though, even if we aren't in agreement. --- me too. most people I discuss this with don't even try to articulate why they feel so strongly about supporting the narrative. they usually have a emotional meltdown 3 messages in and I end up a racist or something somehow so I can respect your attempt at intelligent discourse, but still say on this particular front, I disagree on most of your take on this conflict. we do find common ground on one , and its an important one, that neither of us has the stomache to support this going further into a full on hot war. in the end that is what's most important for everyone.----

it isn't appeasement. they fought for years. is losing a war the same as appeasement? every war ends at some point. What ? rent and food not expensive enough yet bud ? Ukraine can't win and Russia ain't leaving with nothing. How many more people needs to get slaughtered before its time to figure out an end to this? the creeps made there money.its enough now. how far are you willing to go cost wise? until you can't afford food or a mortgage? If Ukraine was funding there own battle then honestly, id care less. Does 'standing for Ukraine' mean more to you then feeding your kids? not me buddy. All joking aside, would you be willing to die for it? your loved ones ? hard fucking no for me. how about you?

No, none against Russia until they invaded. --so they didn't overthrow a friendly government next door , install a west supported leader and start executing russians inside Ukraine and shell the hell out of the 2 provinces they fled to?-- Their hands are tied, same in Syria now. ---- its smart. They could launch an assault on Finland, but there not because that would be a very stupid move with a deal on the horizon.The idea now would be to minimize escalation because a deal is clearly on the table in which removal of all USA weapons will undoubtedly be article one of any agreement.. The best move right now would be to stalemate. That does not mean there incapable of doing so.--- No country has prior to their invasion. But they can’t. Hence playing it off. --- except......----- This happened a year ago. --and the fins haven't done a thing with them. that's the difference--- Correct, we’re not closer to nuclear war than ever before. -- no, we are. Biden and the other assholes are trying there best to leave no choice but escalate before the orange devil ' gets in and stops the senseless killing..---- Funny joke. They’ll leave after the peace talks with assurances, I’m sure. --- they will. with a renewed written and clear agreement...and a nice chunk of Ukraine.---- Z --- its zr, bitch '

time will tell. no military aggression as of yet from Finland. how about Ukraine? tell me, is it better to fight / defend one front or two? if Finland hasn't shown any aggression militarily, why would Russia rush to fight them while already in conflict ? Or would the intelligent move be to wait till trump takes power in January and put in peace talks the removal of USA weapons off its border, including Finland ? the talks are coming. What do you think the smart move would be right now? ppssssttt.......probably not broadcasted on the dear old idiot box ... Russia has came to the table already requesting an end to this. Media darling and huge cokehead actor asshole zelensky refused, with a little input from the UK warhawk. This conflict would already be over, if up to Russia....because ...drumroll...they weren't the aggressors in the first place. the more ya know '....

its like these guys havn't heard of propaganda before and act like our countries won't partake in it lol ' bro , the news told me Putin's attacking because he hates freedom and stuff.' fucks sake . painful.

has the Finnish government been overthrown and a us proxy installed? Are the fins positioning to use long range weapons on Russia? the USSR was crushing the attempts at uprising of those republics before who condemned it and instead offered an agreement to stop that military action the USSR was positioning for ? the collective woulda walked over those if not for USA intervention with talks of a deal. PS ; it shows lol

contrary to the media spin, not much support from the regular guy for this shit anymore.. just people who hate voter id and no longer use pancake syrup in solidarity with there Facebook friends. Whenever I see a I stand for Ukraine ' filter on Facebook profile pics , I already know a 'im vaccinated and your welcome ' pic is 3 back , and a black square pic is 3 back from that. like clockwork. thinking be hard , yo'

they will inevitably surrender a certain amount of Ukraine back to Russia. In the meantime, sustain as long as they can to launder USA taxpayer money into the coffers of insider traded stockholders in arms manufacturers with a handsome 10 percent for the 'big guy'. then send in blackrock and friends to rebuild. stand with Ukraine this long, you guys won't mind the bread lines. pancake syrup is racist ....waffen ss ....eh ...c'mon its only a few of em '

good?

gorbachev agreed to not one inch of expansion to the east ' by NATO' for guaranteed protections of its border. that agreement is now in debate that that was ever an official agreement. the Russians claim it was, USA claims it wasn't it would make sense that it was definitely agreed opon or the USSR wouldn't have been changed to independent states and leave there self vulnerable. the west backed coup of the Russian friendly government in Ukraine in 13/14 was viewed as an underhanded attempt to undermine that agreement. Its seen as a direct threat to there border even if they dance around Ukraine not being officially NATO, its clearly backed by them and its just semantics through a thinly veiled proxy. the media will phrase this as an 'illegal and unprovoked war ' when it absolutely is pure provocation and in defense. but its tough enough to back neo Nazis, can't put out the narrative its also defensive, because then the average no nothing dummy that watches the idiot box after supper for all there politics won't be so supportive of losing there home and starving to death to fund it. or what I all just said was bullshit and there totally bankrupting NATO countries to lob bombs to stand for democracy in europe' and there undying love of non members.... like they ever gave a fuck about anyone else, ever, not a NATO member. which sounds more likely to you ?

eh, I'm all for it .France already voted conservative last election, but multiple parties combined together to keep them out of power. the french people have been protesting these cocksucking demons for a couple years now.long before trump was back in, way before.

shiittt, sounds like the Dems next candidate. they would love her.

a central (federal) government, then like the states but not called states, like a state government with its own laws additive to the federal , not unlike any other country really except the guy at the top is communist.? if California was islaimist populated and opted for sharia law,would you say the USA as a whole is ? russias politics has always been atheisist

they have a percentage, but russia isn't dominated by islaim or intertwine any religion in there politics. Unlike islaimist countries, that absolutely do. there's a difference. there's muslems in pretty much almost every country in the world.its the dominant religion. those alliances are formidible. north Korea might be a shithole, but they have a top ten millitary. china is massive with a huge population and a manufacturing giant. can't minimize those alliances. you can make the arguement not many countries love the USA either if that's an argument.russia does just like the USA does, put its interests first.Its what every country should do. people sleep on turkey as well.there military is no fucking joke either

saudi Arabia, USA and Qatar.all west and western allied countries. that's not a surprise, its what I said when I said ' the west'. turkey also has a hand in it too.how is that sunrising ? Russia isn't islaimist? this is a proxy war , sir. its not about religion.

how did I not answer the question?we are saying the same things except you believe they will never be a threat, I disagree,.they absolutely will.Nows not the time yet, that's all. Will it be some islaimist standing army no. It will be terror groups from inside your border and political power through elections after mass immigration. you disagree because why exactly? I admire your confidence in this never being a problem .

the west are.always have.its just another proxy to fight Russia. It isn't new. How do you think the Taliban got there arms and training? I'm not saying islaim as a whole is the enemy. There's various alliances like Saudi Arabia etc that see the west as a necessary evil to thrive and partner with there interests. in Syria, its just a convenient the enemy of my enemy is my friend ' situation.The rebels need the arms and support, the west loves any excuse to weaken Russia on as many fronts as possible. religion is not exempt from modern politics.That does not mean islaim as a whole is a great idea to import to your country. Sunni and shiate are the main divide of islaim. is that somehow wrong if so enlighten me. Yes there's sub groups and militias branching off both with different political alliances, but that is the major conflict among islamists at the root of it. back to your question about Syria, I don't agree with the west being involved, just like they shouldn't be involved in Ukraine. there using the people of those countries as expendable political pawns and will eventually bite them in the ass just like funding the Taliban did. But for now, there useful against the current problem.you think if there successful in overthrowing Assad and come to power those rebels will suddenly love the west and be throwing gay pride parades? hahaha no sir.

I'm assuming you are talking about suny and shiate? there differences are pretty minor in all reality. there's not a terrible difference between there belief structures. They only really differ on was there Muhammad devine or just a regular person. that's essentially it.kinda like the Jews and christians about there take on Jesus. but there core fundamentals are still very much in line with taking out non believers and in direct conflict with modern society. Not every muslem is a threat or dangerous. But there a huge percentage of the world population, with enough of them in that population holding those core values as word of God and are ready to lay down for it. A concerning amount.and that amount are indeed very dangerous they may hate each other, but are unified in disgust of western morals