mnstang

@AK440 Bruh

Bro I've already said I've accepted your bet about Arctic Cat closing on May 22. Glad you're not backing out after I accepted

May 22nd. Another bang on prediction and welched bet

Probably not many. I tried to get a crated z440 a couple years ago and my plan was to treat it like any other new sled, ride it. I know some people did not like the idea of that, but they're meant to be ridden. Garage queens to me is a lame move.

Besides the obvious part about being made in USA, the carbide podcast pointed out that Argo uses China/Taiwan engine which are getting tariffed pretty heavy. It'd be interesting to see if St cloud starts building Argo motors also.

The XLT colored Polaris' did look good with those colors. A 96 flavored throwback with the engine cc stenciled on back of the seat would be cool. 96 in general was a good cat year for colors and graphics also.

I can understand why fantasy buyers are frustrated by the lack of tech driven information for them to analyze and critique. That's got to be tough.

Right. I have 2 ATVs without EPS. Use them just fine, it's all I've known. But then tried one with EPS and it's just a lot nicer to operate and it raises the bar, something you never knew you wanted/needed. This ext is the first but I bet it becomes standard on all the premium models. It's cool they put c&a's on that sled, I bet it will be well received. If it was themed after a model that I am a big fan of I'd have a hard time resisting it. It'd be cool if cat does one different throwback model every year and make it a little different, more than just graphics, just like this ext has exclusive features so it's more than just a wrap. I think that'd be really cool and people would buy them. Problem with retro stuff is after one model year it loses the novelty but if they changed it every year it'd stay fresh and keep people talking and hoping their favorite model is next.

They will just blame it on guns. Or Trump, that's all I see from Walz and Klobuchar, Trump being elected was their jackpot because they can take zero accountability and blame everything on orange man and that is what they've been doing.

How you got that from what he said shows that you're a complete idiot. If anyone actually needed further proof. Also every other response in that post which I know you read, is very positive. Including Zach Herfindahl and many other owners. You're digging your heels in on a losing issue, on something you haven't experienced and everyone who has loves it. Comment2Comment said for years he just wants a lightweight 600 trail machine with basic gauge and ifp shocks. Still sits on his hands and does nothing but comments and critiques everything to hell like his opinion matters. He isn't in the game but bombards every comment section like he's an authority. That is a loser.

So you're pulling 50# out of your ass. Got it. The rest of your rambling isn't worth replying to.

Not that it's your business but it was "paid off" before I took delivery. Keep trying. Funny right in this thread you said you have a heavy steering two stroke. Another person also said they rode a Polaris two stroke that had heavy steering. But your argument is that two strokes wouldn't benefit from it because they're "lightweight". Ok boomer. Luckily you can still buy a non EPS sled. Which we all know you won't.

Yeah dude, riding snowmobiles is all about how they feel. I guess not for you, you ride spec sheets and snowtrax reviews. Where are you getting 50# from? So you don't understand how EPS can make a sled feel lighter? Maybe if they make a column on the spec sheet that says feels lighter yes/no, then you'd understand? Since you're an old man stuck in your ways fearing advancement and things not working when sleds are 15 years old, I'm surprised you have sleds with efi, oil injection, and electric gauges. Because you sound just like the stubborn closed minded people that opposed all those advancements.

That is a crazy way to think about it. I have sleds that I can turn without it, but I would still turn better with it and benefit from it. The second part, you could say that about literally every advancement in snowmobiles that makes them better. It's also admitting it makes them better. But you could say that about high performance engines, better suspensions, better tracks, better chassis, better skis, carbides, lower center gravity. By this logic we should all be riding around on 8 HP Briggs and Strattons so we don't have morons running around at speed.

Oh I guess that one cut deep, the truth tends to hurt. Remember when I bought a catalyst and you never bought anything and never will?

Whatever you have to tell yourself. You're the old man afraid of new technology that will make the sled better and FEEL lighter. You've always been a magazine rider

Got it, you'd rather ride the spec sheet.

What is more important to you, what the spec sheet says or how the sled actually feels. The EPS sled will feel significantly lighter. Like I said I think you'd feel different if you tried it. IF you ride aggressively you would benefit. I don't care who you are you can't be as precise as you can when you're hanging off the side of machine and putting 50# through the handlebars. You just don't realize it and looking at spec sheets. The race sleds will have it sooner or later.

I guarantee you if you rode your sled back to back with and without eps that the EPS sled would feel significantly lighter and you'd have a different stance

Still would like to place this bet. It's not May 22 and bet hasn't been retracted. Thanks non-welcher

I welcome EPS. I've never felt sore or fatigued from steering. But I have noticed with c&a skis and big carbides when you're hanging off the sled being aggressive as you can that I can't be as precise with throttle as I'd like to be and not as dynamic with riding position as I could be. It's not a huge deal but with aggressive traction, is be a better and faster rider with EPS. It's obvious. Nothing to do with 2s or 4s, aggressive traction requires way more force period.

Snowest podcast about the recent cat news and 2026 models and updates. Apparently Brad Darling did a conference call with alot of media today

Snowest podcast, lot of great info on the whole cat situation and the 2026 changes

That ext special will sell. EPS is new for two strokes. The twin rail mountain sleds will sell. 3 year warranty on snow checks too.

EPS in two stroke and the catalyst will be new and that's pretty cool. Also the twin rail M's will sell really well as there's some people that have been asking for that. The models look great and I heard 3 year warranty on snow checks. Hopefully they get the bugs worked out of the 858. So happy for Cat