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Funny though that the catalyst 600 is ranked above the skidoo in the engine/power category according to the snowtrax review, skidoo was last. In 15 years when the 5 speed runners get their hands on a catalyst maybe then they can try for a new world record.

If anyone with money to buy sleds cared about 1000' radar running, the oems could easily make sleds do that and they'd dominate. It's not hard. But the only people who care about radar runs are people that don't even ride. They're not even snowmobilers just posers. This guy pictured his zrt in his driveway, guy lives in cookie cutter suburb shitville beta land with a strip of grass between houses guy can't even ride down his own road. Radar running the lowest form of competition, not even racing it is speed running you could be slower to the finish line but still "win" wow do you iv inject the soy straight in or?? No matter what mph your sled runs you still have to go home to your beta subdivision every day and come on why is it on the track stand if you were running it all your neighbors would be calling your association just more posing

Stay in your underachiever zrt lane bub

Global warming is over and now we're heading into an ice age, just look at the weather today. It is our job to counteract this by riding our polluting snowmobiles every time the climate changes to ice age mode. It's a constantly changing climate change.

Well you should tell everyone the OEM thing isn't a reliability advantage, because that was the sentiment just a few posts up. Sure there's outliers like the Polaris 800 that were maybe less reliable than the norm but I'd argue that's still in a different league compared to the aftermarket. Just imagine if an aftermarket had to make an engine from scratch and they'd have to understand the materials to use and where, the tolerances, the proper sizes and ratios for different parts and reasons behind it, the ways to build things so they go through all the ranges of heat and warming up at different rates. (Forged piston 4 corner seizure, bueller?). There are things that successful engine builders know that you only know if you've ever built engines and gone through it many times over. Experience matters in every profession. That's why I think doing hop ups is one thing but getting into aftermarket cylinders, changing the design of the motor, is a complete roll of the dice because these people just don't know. Anyone who has expertise at something has seen people that think they have it figured out but are so entry level that they don't even know what they don't know. And they're the most dangerous people for that reason. I don't claim to know but I think I know when to defer to the experts. There's a guy making Z pro pistons for all the years but when I asked how that can be when OEM used 3 pistons in those years and what the difference was he didn't even know the difference and I'm not ragging on the guy maybe the differences are inconsequential but like I said you don't know what you don't know. You have anecdotal evidence because you ran a big bore f7 at 9200 rpm and it didn't explode. I'd bet alot that the Polaris 800 is still way way more reliable than your big bore was, at scale. I'm not saying anything is bad to do if you're accepting the risk I just find it funny people think an SSI big bore 900 kit slapped on a 600 will be just as good as an oem motor. It's a giant risk in comparison. If you can't see that then we just disagree.

Better check again, I was assured by people here with DYNO results backing that that would be way too high of RPM. It was possibly in this thread.

I'm not saying there aren't sharp guys out there, that's where you guys get so sensitive. Deep haven said it's a bunch of stock parts to hop something up, that's the definition of bolting stuff together, no? And even if someone's very sharp, comment still stands about the comparison to an actual engine manufacturer. It's not that hard to make fix kits. The fact that some of these kits brag about using "stock parts" proves my point further. Saying that infers reliability to people for a reason. If it didn't they wouldn't say it.

Are you saying it's a thing that some places might get conveniently burned for insurance money? Because I've wondered that before with some places but didn't know if it was a thing or if others suspected this of maybe happening.

Indy Dan, didn't you just post about a twisted crank from him. I doubt Dan has 1% of the resources and knowledge base of an OEM engine manufacturer when it comes to building an engine. Anyone can bolt some stuff together and sometimes it works, not saying it can't ever work. You guys are touchy about your horsepower heros. Dyno Dan! Lol

I'm not commenting on an iron dog kit. Know nothing about it. I'm speaking on general terms. But it's funny how you're the number one guy afraid of first year oem engines but you're apparently good with a shade tree cobble job. My first post on this topic applies to you

There's way more to engine reliability than just the ecu tune. And there's more downsides with these aftermarket big bores than just reliability

Enhancers as far as bolt on pipes, heads, etc sure. Maybe even some porting under the right circumstances. But you'd have to be an idiot to run aftermarket big bore

Any speed shop company engine kit is going to be a crap shoot at best. People don't understand the level of knowledge, r&d and testing that goes into an OEM engine. BDX/SSI was pumping out the 900 kits for catalyst this year and people were thinking it was an equivalent substitute for the upcoming 858. Even the best "engine guys" have no clue of the considerations the OEM accounts for, especially the Japanese. Not saying things can't be improved on for performance but I'd never slap on complete aftermarket cylinders for example.

959 is the ctec3 (triple) for M.Y. 2026 It will have an 9.59" long belt and the legs will never stop

The iron dog doos had meth injection kits and they weren't even turbocharged!

Fully agree with that

I was on that page and didn't last a week, had to leave, seemed pretty toxic

I'm in favor of Dec 1 through April 1. I don't see any issues with it. I might have to get some sleds out of this thing delivers! https://www.facebook.com/100063623770415/posts/931867192277398/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Then the 600 zr catalyst will be perfect for you. It's an awesome sled.

That's exactly as how it's delivered. The small vocal group here are trying to be lake racers with it. Listen to any media review on it, there are dozens and they all say the same thing, super awesome motor and very responsive. If you're chasing ultimate top end mph you're always going to have to do some work and you will, without a doubt, sacrifice in other areas for it.

"B service" here is $549 so you likely got alot more done than that. But it's on the internet now so it must be true. Congratulations on your bought vehicle.

I saw a pit coat listed somewhere recently. But not seeing anything right now. Not that I'm interested but I was going to look out of curiosity

Well WTF. Do I need to completely unpack all my crap that's put away for summer?