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Kinda like people begging for a twin rail mountain sled option and Cat just straight up refusing to do it. It boggles the mind.

Metallic panther purple goes quite well with arctic apple green, if I do say so myself

A single green fuel toilet powering a twin free-air 2026 Catalyst Cat will have jimbo bricked right up.

I know your underwear are all different shades of green, but many just want one green on their sleds and that's OK

In my mind this is a throwback to the late 80s color schemes that defined that decade, especially the 1988 Wildcat 650 (which my old man had when I was a kid). I didn't really care for it at first either, despite my personal history. But, it has grown on me and I plan to do a custom wrap incorporating the different shades of green when I take delivery.

Definitely makes me feel more confident, especially coming from AJ.

For sure. Clutching could be a huge factor here. That said, with one on order, I'm officially worried I'm not going to be happy with the sled. Cat has to get this right.

It did seem that way. That was a painful podcast to watch/listen to. It's hard to know what to think...they start the episode plugging Polaris hard, rag on the 858 "bottom end", their descriptions were all over the map with meandering and unspecific responses, and they put out a 2 part series with a quantity of information that easily could've fit into a 15 min episode.

Definitely far from glowing reviews. I'm sure Cat has some fuel calibration and clutching to get sorted out. It's kind of funny that pages and pages of this thread have been dedicated to sorting out the 600 catalyst clutching, but the snowest crew raves about how that sled feels . As a tree riding crew they prob don't care one bit about a wall at 80 mph, as long as it feels snappy. Back when I was doing some drag racing with my F7, you could throw a ton of weight at that primary to get faster ETs. You definitely felt it load that motor though. The racing setups I used were far from my ideal trail setups. Of course, we can't rule out that Textron's Arctic Cat gave us a turd (I shudder as I think back to the 07-09 suzuki 800 in the twin spar).

Yeah that is a massive premium for what? 5 hp?

My Poo buddies are groaning at the price and I definitely agree. Especially right now when you can go out and buy a leftover boost or regular 850 for thousands less, put excellent shocks on all 4 corners, and still be ahead.

The pic is not a Procross. However, he raced a Procross mod in Pro Open.

Yes the procross based sleds are all chaincase to my knowledge, I was simply pointing out their observation that they've never had a final drive belt fail. I watched the Bunke vid the other day...very impressive speed. They also burned it down last weekend

I found the Snowest Q & A where this is from, and notably the 858 figure isn't there. So whether it was deleted or was doctored and shared to another site, I'm not sure. It def would be wild if Ski-Doo already got their hands on an 858 to dyno. https://www.snowest.com/2024/02/skidoo-2025-questions-answers-freeride-rack-steering

Herf was running 3rd until a clutch belt failure on his mod procross. Clearly the Cats are down on speed regardless of chassis. Unrelated, but the photos do show durability confidence in the belt final drive...

Would I have liked to see 170+ HP? Absolutely. Is it a deal breaker for my sno check? No. Is it enough to convince guys on other brands? In most cases probably a resounding NO. Now, if the whole chassis and engine package is is truly greater than the sum of its parts, and the engine proves durable, that could convince some guys to jump ship, but it ain't gonna happen overnight.

It appears Herfindahl is racing a procross in the pro open class today...

Arguably the dumbest thing you've ever posted.

Interesting. Granted, I'm only 180lbs, but I can ride plenty hard and setting three on the turbo feels like the shocks are locked out I honestly think they're stiffer than my R-XC at full 24 clicks

Which would make sense to me on an R-XC, but on a regular ZR trail sled I'd argue it's overkill.

Seems like there's a lot of consensus between media and riders that setting 3 on the QS3/iQS is basically useless and way too firm. I'd agree with that too. I'd like to see Cat address that on the production models for 2025. I mean the guys says he's coming off 2 new Polaris'

How's the 858 feel!? Been seeing some rave reviews on the social medias.

Certainly seems that way. To that point though, I'm not in the loop on the latest rules....how is it that Polaris can field their 600 XCR without it being available to consumers? Maybe I'm mistaken, but on their website only the 650 is available.

Damn, Cat goes 1-2 in snocross!? What is this??