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Herfindahl finally won one in maine

Cats on top in the first practice, it’s a resurgence. Wes had his brakes on fire last weekend at the Soo let’s see if Benham can keep the melted brake rotor streak going, he’s usually pretty good for a brake fire or 7 a season

Right I think it could pull a 44 or 46 easily to 8200 ish with 63 or 64 grams in it though

The thing that really has me leaning towards a lower progressive instead of just running the 48 straight is the potential to put more weight in the primary, keep the rpms and raise the pipe temps.

I think the 46 finish might be perfect and agree on a 52 or 50 giving a little more oomph on the hit without just letting the motor free rev I’ll have to see if I can find those options to compare to the 48s and something with a 44

I think realistically mine doing 95-96 gps on shit snow consistently (4 passes in a row is consistent for this winter we have) would put it around 99-100 on good snow and 102-104 on ice based on previous experience with boss secondary’s. I don’t think it would be the best possible performer without changes though. I also don’t really see a 107mph boss secondary stock 600 on SNOW happening. I also don’t know that much about clutching compared to a lot of people that’s why I have been trying pretty hard to get this dialed in myself but checking with you guys before trying things. I’m not terribly mad about the piss poor stock clutching because it made me figure it out (as best as I can with my knowledge).

I’d like to try a 52/44 or something along those lines with the trusty old 155/220. I don’t know if that’s too shallow on the final ramp or not but it could get it snappier down low while still functioning without having too much jackshaft speed for the motor when it hits the progressive angle which it seemed like with the 56/49 (I don’t even know if that makes sense but that’s how it seemed to us)

Anything set up to feel like it has more power than it does low and mid will have nothing up top. Slipping belts don’t produce track speed, snocross helixes don’t belong on 125hp trail sleds. It’s a joke of a calibration they threw together because they got it ok for the most part and didn’t want to put a couple hours of extra testing in it. I’ll bring a dragy with me when whatever snow there is left firms up next week and compare stock to everything else, I guarantee it doesn’t lose anything down low if just doesn’t hit a wall at 82mph now

The average person doesn’t want to turn 7600 rpms to cruise at 55-60

This is an old slider scale but the rest of them were pretty much dead nuts on with bushing weights added so the “63s” were definitely an outlier with their weight. We weighed them again when we put the 62s on the scale to test them

62 gram weights weigh in at 61.3, 61.4 and 61.3 which is consistent with the 65s. The 63s are gonna hit the grinder to actually fall in the middle of the other two. No longer any slippage as you can see.

Good explanation as to why the 64 gram weights did nothing. The 66s all weighed around 65.1-65.2

He’s claiming stock on snow, I said ehhh I’d like to see proof on that because I haven’t heard of a race team stocker over 105 on ice. Then he went off on a rant about Ben’s Soo sled going 113 with his clutching which doesn’t seem to correlate but ok. Fuck a good running decent clutched 800 ctec with a boss doesn’t run more than 103-104 on snow

I believe I’ve really struck a nerve with Terry from thunder on the catalyst page. He’s claiming 107 on snow (😂) but seems very threatened by the fact that someone else is getting 100 on snow with no gimmicks.

I was trying to soften up the seat.

85-225 primary spring- engaged slightly higher but grabbed the belt way too hard, lost about 300 rpms. 64 gram 48s 155/220- rpms went up to about 8000 picked up zero speed seat of pants wasn’t any faster getting there. 64 gram 56/49 stock spring- shifted out wicked fast and lost about 100 rpms and 2-3mph still pulled through the wall though. 62 gram 48s 155/220- 8150 rpms picked up 4mph gps The snow was shit sticky stuff and the temp was high so speed was down but I ran the setup from the other day as a baseline and then based the rest off that. That said the 62 gram combo should be 100mph on good cold snow and there’s some tuning left to be done. Far from thunders 107 on snow that the race teams couldn’t accomplish on ice but not bad overall.

Fuck boys, this clean one owner set is up for 2 beans or best offer with the far one being a mint triple touring

015 105-225 009 85-225 found an 85-225 today I’m gonna try if the weights come in. Fucker might squeeze the belt in half

@jonlafon1 the stock helix takes too much to get rolling and then shifts out to the progressive too fast imo. I’m not 100% sure how high the 85 will engage but I don’t think it’s gonna be anything crazy, they engage super soft with the 65, but will get those heavier weights rolling a little better. I agree finish is good and I’m definitely getting good shift out on the primary as you can see. The 48s might work very well with a little less weight and higher engagement from the primary, I think the 48/44 with the 85 initial and the 66s might work well to squeak those last couple rpms out of it that it needs too.

Takes about $250 in overnight parts from Theefivver

Triple touring sounds cooler than pantera though and as far as I know only 600s were Triple touring 8s and 1000s were all panteras

Rocky Mountain Rob Kincaid posted a video shortly before he died about the 55 ft/lb rating on a cat primary being equal to a 2 second trigger pull on a Milwaukee impact after the bolt all the way in. We tried it on 3 sleds at the shop and all of them were within a ft/lb or so.

Ahh ok makes more sense why they’re coming with springs in them then.

Is that the spring that comes in all the adapt primary’s? I know they all have a spring in them but that’s it

@favoritos I don’t see a lot of good coming out of that stock helix but I think a 50-52/44 would work well in its place. I bet that would be a hot ticket with the 64 gram weights. I still haven’t found a primary spring I love and nobody really lists their adapt springs online yet. I’d like to try about 85 initial with the same finish in the primary