mnstang

The future is no snow, and snow bikes.

Snirt would be generous. That just looks like dirt SMH

That was nice for cat to give skidoo an 858 to do whatever with. I'm sure that totally happened also.

Oops I just quoted you, I guess you owned me!

I chuckle here reading the digs at people who run their qs3 on 1. If the trails are smooth like they normally are for me where I ride, I'm going to run one. I guess I don't have an ego to the point I have to unecessarily run a stiffer click setting to prove that I'm the second coming to Tucker even though setting one isn't moving half the travel of the shock. I care about enjoying the ride and if you're unecessarily stiff for the sake of feeling badass, well that's just stupid and it does affect your energy levels throughout a day. Just like if you're getting blasted by wind all day with a fly screen windshield. You're not going to feel very fresh at the end of a day in comparison to having some comfort in these areas. But hey at least you look badass with the cranked shocks and tiny windshield. Even if lxr's are passing you..

Wow, it's almost like it's not calibrated perfectly for all sizes and types of riders for all different types of riding! If it were green (or blue), we'd mercilessly cry on the internet about how we care about the company going out of business while shitting on them every chance we get. At least they got their clutch calibration spot on with no need for any tuning ever.

I don't know if anyone was saying it's faster than anything made. And most 600 owners think they don't need a bigger engine or else they wouldn't be on a 600. So I don't see the problem there unless you hate that people were generally impressed with the sled. If they're guilty of anything though it's that they didn't read the dyno charts before forming their opinion.

I ended up getting a Menards sheet of hdpe and that worked good it was the same stuff that came off and I have some leftover for future projects. I wanted to keep it how it was with the sheet strips because it works for wheeled vehicles and whatever else.

Soy exclusive diet

Looks sweet. It's just like a dragstrip you lay down rubber for traction..

Does anyone know for sure that the steel is only for 858? Not could just be for all 2025+. Definitely good for an additional 6mph and when bought in the baker dozens bundle of a spider and magic belt for 12mph thunder will include a sticker with your order.

Way more than 11% #underhyped

So there you have it, 146hp for the ctec. So that should put the 858 11% bump claim underrated!! Don't give me crap about weather conditions... Corrected numbers!11iiI Aren't dynos great, that's why we should put all of our opinion into one dyno on one day on a sled we've never rode. I'm talking fucking horse power bro. However this doesn't seem to be the popular theme, I'm still learning this dyno/cat-hating game

Who cares about a ride video, let's see the dyno videos

Well you had unrealistic dyno expectations. Let's hypothetically say it's the fastest two stroke in a drag race or whatever real world measurement you desire. Is it still a disappointment, would you still feel best having top dyno number while getting outperformed riding the machine?

Cat has all of the hype in the industry and has for a year and a half. They're going to carry it for another whole year from now at least. If someone decides to not buy this sled over this dyno without riding the machine, they were never going to buy one. Not that I care. Snowmobiling is dying regardless and the average age seems to go up one year every year and is shrinking. The mountain segment is the only future for the industry if there's one. Nobody cares about racing it's not the 90's anymore. I'd bet under 5% of new buyers can't even name one current professional racer.

I care about overall power of a machine and various parts of a machine's engine. Way more than involved than just a peak dyno number. And I care most about the overall package of the machine, which the engine is just one part of that. If you guys want to bleed your panties over a preproduction dyno number being 3hp less than you expected and thinking it's the end of the sled, have at it. Sounds like fun.

This just proves (part of) my point, because DTR has dynod the skidoo 600 higher than the catalyst.

Lol you take this stuff pretty seriously

You're welcome? I'd say thanks back for quoting me as well, but that seems like a weird thing to give thanks for. Are you thanking me for talking to you?

So you constantly follow him around to shit on him but say he can't reply or else that makes him a drama queen? Have you ever considered taking your own advice?

Problem for who, sideline reporters that aren't in the game? Why do supposed consumers care if an offering will entice other riders? I've never once cared about that in my life. Let me guess, because we are fcs market watch and care about the well being of cat corporate (that we hate on every day). FFS the entire industry has given zero shits about brp and Polaris since haydays 2022. I forgot lynx even existed til a few days ago. Cat is dominating the talk of everything, look at this damn forum for example A. If someone is buying a sled because of literally a few hp either way on the dyno and that's all they care about, then that's cool for them. I share zero in common with those people and not concerned about it in the least. Just like the people who bought r-xc's for their wife because they liked the color the best. Do I think cat needs to go sell out and go after all the idiots to get the most sales numbers, no I'd rather they didn't. And it's a fucking dyno number. It is hard for me to accept people actually care about a few hp either way, I know it's true but hard to accept that level of stupidity. Hell the doo 600 makes more than the cat 600 on dyno, and snowtrax shit all over the doo 600 in comparison to the cat 600, HOW CAN THAT BE DON'T THEY KNOW THE DYNOS REPORTS!?!?!?!!!!?!!!!!??!!?

Anyone can ride an 850. That is not what I was saying.

Dynos aren't the end all, be all. I know DTR guy does a pretty good job with trying to be consistent but it still doesn't replicate real world and correction factors are very limiting also and don't tell the whole story whatsoever. Two different dynos can load a motor differently. A motor will respond to different loads differently. Two different motors will respond to the same loads differently. Correction factors don't take into account the variables of different engines, they can't. Engine x might run better at a certain altitude/pressure/temperature/humidity both from a calibration standpoint and design of engine itself and the PIPE. Engine y might not run in it's sweet spot in those same conditions. But they are both "corrected" from this spot. But then in the real world in different altitude/temp/etc from the dyno, engine y might have ideal conditions that are more suited for it's calibration, engine design, pipe design. Correction factors only account for the air difference in percents but they have no possible way to account for how that difference will make that particular engine react. Especially with things like a two stroke where you have an expansion chamber. One sled could have a good running pipe at altitude but it is maybe "tight" at low altitude when you're moving more air and heat. And vice versa. This is why you don't race dynos. They can be tuning tools but even then you'd still have to field test because that's the only thing that actually matters. I'm sure on cats dyno it was 11% or whatever they said. That doesn't mean it's going to be 11% on every dyno for all the reasons I listed.

Zero people here can utilize the power on a trail. The sled comes down to handling, ergos, chassis, weight, suspension, and power delivery. And color of course. I'm sure a couple magazine chasers care alot about exact dyno numbers but nobody serious does.