I have grippers on my assault an with 7 inch shaper bars thing was a bear to turn no matter conditions. Have C&A XCS on my Matryx indy xc with 6 inch snow stud snipers . It wasnt as bad as the grippers with shapers but still a little heavy. was in the process of dialing it in an later that day made a wrong turn an ended up having to go over RR tracks an they broke off one of my carbides, oops. going to try a round bar next time instead of a shaper style. But definatly leaps an bounds better than pro steers in soft conditions.