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Is this all you do once a year to the cabin? 1000 lbs of payload in the bed and it takes 3 hours to drive but an EV pickup would take 6 hours at the same task?

So just payload? No trailer. 3 hours drive time??? How far??? 300 miles?

Let me guess…. 300 miles in 3 hour travel time pulling a boat in your vehicle.

Couple house destroyed. Dozens of fire departments on scene as a tank of fossil fuel exploded at a GM facility. https://www.motor1.com/news/742335/general-motors-explosion-proving-ground/

Pickups are a necessary clumsy evil for many work situations but if an EV pickup works for the work situation it is leaps and bounds better then a gas or diesel both in driving dynamics and overall costs

The truck that pulls your brother’s friends boat before and after lightning is guaranteed to haul air the majority of time with the ocassional once a season boat towing to his cottage and back. Rest of the time it is likely used for dropping kids off at school, grabbing, groceries, and haul air. probably not a work truck that is used for work daily

What kind of work trucks at power companies need to tow a boat 163 miles?

3 of them (lightnings). We are on about 10 year cycles for pickups so my 2020 is half way through its life. I have no doubt it will probably be replace by an EV pickup when it is sent packing. Especially with all the regulations on the Left coast and requirements to follow CARB

I don’t own a gas vehicle anymore. The driving dynamic of a vehicle with a gas/diesel engine is just so clunky and horrible driving. I have a diesel pickup at work and everything about driving that 2020 cummins is just horrible.

Stop peddling bullshit. Oil companies love being in the red. They have been really working on drilling themselves to bankruptcy but the Biden admin has stopped them from drilling for oil

Tax credits letting people and businesses keep more of there own money were way before 2016. Not just EV inclusive.

Gm tesla

Cash for clunkers ring a bell? most all oil producing countries governments get revenue from every barrel of oil they produce. Not the US gov.

Why are oil and gas production so incentives and subsidized then? Look the subsidy auto manufactures raked in a decade or so ago to make gas powered vehicle viable financially.

Looks like Trump will be not be changing the laws around EV’s. Automakers, all of them, have sent letters to Trump letting him know not to touch the Biden era policy https://www.cbtnews.com/auto-industry-urges-trump-to-keep-ev-tax-credit-and-emissions-standards/ In a letter sent on November 14, 2024, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation — representing major automakers including Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis — urged Trump to maintain incentives for both EV buyers and manufacturers. The group argues that these policies contribute to creating “good jobs” while fostering industry growth

Took under 4 months for Biden/ democrats to run the debt up by a trillion https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-national-debt-hits-new-record-36-trillion.amp

Electricity came on much quicker then the entire states fuel infrastructure. Without power all the fuel terminals were closed. With each home restored with electricity was another home fuel station returned online. With each line that came on was more public chargers that came online. EV have a much easier time before and after hurricanes.

Most people that have range anxiety with EV’s don’t even have EV’s. Slow speed driving and stop and go EV’s are so much better. Look at the last hurricane in Florida. Gas station fights with people waiting hours to get gas just to have the station run out as they were waiting. Most EV’s are full when weather disaster are imminent.

I’ve had zero problems towing long distance out west through the Rocky Mountains and the ring of fire mountains.

Like 90% of pickups haul air 99% of the time. Even most here are lucky to get a 1000-2000 miles a year towing on there tow vehicles yet here they are claiming that they are the only vehicles that can do it. Most of the people that bring performance in the conversation are non performance enthusiast as a justification for there vehicles.

No oil changes, brakes, etc etc etc?

So at least 100 miles round trip. Around $4 in electricity or around $3 in the Tesla. With you junk you drive you are looking at trip 3-4 times that in cost and then likely some wrenching when the trip is done.

Same here with a EV but less time spent filling. You don’t even need to head out and make special stops to fill when you leave home n an EV. They are always full when you head out so no need to make special stops like you have to with gas. Unless you exceed the range capabilities of an EV then you would need the rare and occasional EV fill up

Cost about a buck to put that 22 miles back in. Probably $5 for you to do that distance in your junk which you don’t strike me as a person that gets out much or goes anywhere anyway so that 22 miles may be a months worth of driving for you

Like I said anytime I need to tow I use the Rivian. If I needed firewood I would use the Rivian and a trailer and head up into the forest and cut what I need. Are you going 250 miles for fire wood? If I needed to go offroad I would likely get a set of 20’s for the Rivian. Not a lot of great all terrain focus tires in the size that would fit on the Rivian in the 22 in wheels that I have. Wouldn’t be going into the forest roads in the winter as we get too much snow and all the forest service roads are closed to vehicle traffic. Most snow parks and sledding areas out west are off paved roads and plowed parking lots