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On 5/2/2021 at 4:34 PM, Deephaven said:
Why the fuck would you do that? Pinch it.
it was a hypothetical ? to assert my initial point
13 hours ago, Deephaven said:I would rather trail ride my 144 than a 121. I hate spinning. If you can't hook up there isn't enough track to make the ride fun. On trail cornering speed is limited solely by vision so I don't understand the shorties at all. The 144 is a fair amount of work and with a 1.75 a 136/7 can hook up as well as my 144 so my next machine will be coupled and a bit shorter.
the topic is subjective, in a ditch or running farm fields all day long I'd likely want a different setup than what works well here. I like a 'little bit' of track spin at times before it hooks up, but we each utilize what's going on under us differently. trail cornering speed is also subjective, there's a zillion different kinds of corners from tight braking hair pins to long fast sweepers, in the tight stuff the shorter skids and a good front end bite just flat out works. knowing how much you liked the Pro-X I would have imagined the Rave specs and being uncoupled would have been right up your alley.
9 hours ago, mnstang said:The whole bridging bumps thing is bullshit and has been bullshit ever since someone came up with that theory. Just another dumb internet talking point
it's funny enough to warrant this passionate discussion
9 hours ago, Fireball 440 said:It was and I went along with it for years until I switched back to a short track a few years ago.
spread the word, to Textron who completely abandoned the 128/129 market. (cough)
9 hours ago, CFM said:Have to say, my wifes 06 Fuse eith M10 when i set suspension stiff/soft enough to just bottom on the biggest of bumps (not jumps) goes over most trail junk like nothing. Really amazing for ‘old tech.” I do hsve to set it back for her weight after I borrow it for a day. Just takes 5 minutes or so.
I wonder if part of the perception of the longer skids being 'better' also came with the advent of better quality shocks coming standard on sleds. would be interested to take a 121/129/137 sleds out with shitty old shocks, and see what shakes out.
5 hours ago, Deephaven said:On trail cornering speed is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard. Even more off than bump bridging. I've never seen a corner on trail here in MN or WI where the sled is what has slowed me down, it is always vision. Sure it is more work to hold the same line, but even with all the extra work and slowing down because I can't see the morons coming the other way I have to wait like hell for everyone. So if you made all the trails one way saving the sight problem, it'd still be pointless as I'd just have to wait more.
one way trails, good luck pitching that to a club.
4 hours ago, Deephaven said:No. I ride 1mi then wait a few minutes for whomever I am with to catch up. At the corners you HAVE to slow down because of all the jackasses that ride on the wrong side. Vision is always the limit of my speed, has nothing to do with the sled in corners. If the trails were all one way then perhaps it could be helpful, but I'd still be waiting so not sure why making it easier to corner so I can wait more has any benefit.
personally speaking, I gauge my trail performance upon how well the sled is working in two ways. first being, how quickly can I consistently ride a fast (yet safely* logical) pace in tight quarters, and the second is how much abuse can my body and the sled take while maintaining control doing so.... safely*.
safely* - for myself and anyone I might encounter coming the opposite direction
3 hours ago, Sled_Hed said:I ride a cat so there isn't any outrunning of the group for me.
you should try Ramstadland, because everyone there rides a Cat
1 hour ago, mnstang said:I do not share your opinion on this but yes if you don't care about having a slow trail sled then the long track should work fine for you. It still won't be bridging any bumps though.
I'd probably find other people to ride with. As slow as you ride and you still have to stop every mile for minutes, are you riding with walkers? Lol fuck sounds lame af
maybe he's riding with friends and family, or kids, idk? everyone has their own perception of a 'brisk' pace... mileage may vary.
does anyone make a 132" conversion, I want to be in the middle.
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12 hours ago, fortune46x said:
but wait and hear me out, @Not greg b and I have an F7 swap planned.
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36 minutes ago, Deephaven said:
Traction helps bridge bumps. Most people are idiots, but in a spot where you need to hook to float the machine better then the one that hooks will "bridge" as you can accelerate and get more weight up and off the ground.
but if you're going, let's say 35mph on a 129 or 137 and holding the throttle somewhat steady while going over 1ft'ers... it likely doesn't matter, right?
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Just now, jdsky said:
Here's my take. When I started riding a 137" back in 05' nearly every sled on the trail back then was a 121". Now that most sleds are 137" or 129" there is no advantage and the whole bridging the bumps thing is no longer....
right
I can see the 136/137 accelerating and braking better due to more lugs/studs on the ground... but apparently some folks (maybe these are newbs?) seem to think there's an enormous amount of difference in the length of the skid/rails and they have some magical bump bridging abilities.
in SX it was easy to see that when Cat went from 121 to 128, and then again from 128 to 136 that the hole shot and acceleration were superior, then Poo & Doo wisely followed suit.
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can someone please explain to me how a 136/137 'bridges' bumps so much better than a 128/129 ?
we're talking like 3-4" of additional track on the ground right?
ok, I can see if we're talking about going from a 121 to a 146... but 3-4" bridges better
someone do the math on this one for me...
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On 4/26/2021 at 7:19 AM, fortune46x said:
Well shit ... lol usually isr has them on their page
Which class can I run this in, and is the snow flap length good to go?
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rookies...
Great movie, Mel was just a young racist back then and their sex scene was racy for it's time frame. Kurt Russel and Raul Julia were also fantastic.
yup, I'm old too.
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4 hours ago, Mag6240 said:
How about Iola? Symco is not far from there.....
Was an Iola regular in the 70/80/90's until they turned it into a flea market. Symco is a traditional hot rod and custom car show. If your car doesn't meet the criteria they won't let you show it. Cool place too.
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3 hours ago, Not greg b said:
Well back to the 50’s bites the dust for this year already.
I've a good deal of friends that are regulars at that one... but again, not this year.
Another really fun 50's traditional show that's off most peoples radar is in Symco WILuckily, Wisco is less nanny-state than MN
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in addition to that, I'd be willing to wager that most folks base their new sled purchases more from...
1. a stupid gauge
2. colors and graphics / spring check options
3. best performing big bore 2S
so that's another colossal marketing fail for Cat on the aforementioned levels
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not that my or anyone replying to this threads opinion matters to the roundy round crew...
so, imo
Championship Class should be for a 'rules limited' class that invest into the sleds which consistently turn the fastest laps with more than 10 competitors in their heat races of less than 600cc.
the other class might be a premier class with 'current manufacturer consumer available' based 600 engines and ice oval permitted alterations to a 'consumer available' based chassis.
it's utterly hilarious, few people base their new sled purchases off how well their favorite brand does in Snocross or Ice Oval racing. that said, Cat guys still have Cross Country Racing locked in on the decade old chassis for now.....
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just curious to know if Trump ever got Mexico to pay for that fucking wall?
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Trump did a fantastic job of keeping Canadians out of the U.S.
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did being in Facebook jail make you lose your ability to google shit @fortune46x? maybe you're eligible for some free government program...
https://corpowersports.com/assets/pdf_files/21-22 U.S. Polaris Race Application.pdfhttps://corpowersports.com/assets/pdf_files/Ski-Doo 2022 Race Application.pdf
is Cor that much more advanced than ISOC? https://corpowersports.com/raceforms/
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7 hours ago, mnstang said:
A free jag followed me home last night. Mint.
lightweight mod sled time
did you just drag it home by your trailer hitch?
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9 hours ago, Not greg b said:
After 18 years cat redesigned their atv. They have a new 600 they released today. It was way more than a plastic change unlike 2014
https://arcticcat.txtsv.com/atv/new-alterra-600
so they bring out a new ATV model for their 60th anniversary...?
winning
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13 hours ago, fortune46x said:
Just another shit post... Cat has no application to join its race program for 2021-22 .... Then again I have yet to see the Polaris one for the matter but knowing they built a dedicated xc model and cat didnt even have its listed for 2022 ... is this the writing on the wall ?
as much as I enjoy shitting on Textron... here's the 2021/2022 application for Cross Country, SX, hill climbs, Ramstading....
https://corpowersports.com/assets/pdf_files/2021-2022 Team Arctic.pdf
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6 hours ago, Not greg b said:
Also crn2crn slapped sponsure ship grfixs on my car. Fucker
Wait until I get the primer gray wrap that's on backorder with no eta.
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1 hour ago, racinfarmer said:
Who is this "Ramstad" guy? I know people at Cat still and haven't heard of him. I know a lot more former Cat employees, that being said.
the defender of Arctic Cat
https://www.hardcoresledder.com/members/jim_ramstad-yahoo-com.441570/#latest-activity
he's on @Bontz's bowling team and is @Zambroski's third cousin once removed on his mom's side. -
2 hours ago, Ziemann said:
Jim Ramstad's idea of Cat innovation:
Was that picture taken in the middle of Bumfucknowhere MN?
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Lew's brand rods, probably a medium weight under 7ft. Look at the Speed Sticks for starters. (rods have become very specialized based on the type of fishing you are doing) I primarily fish smallies and large mouth, and have half a dozen rods at the cottage and another half dozen or more at home. You can find them for less online or at Canadian Tire or wherever you guys shop up there, maybe a Tim Hortons?
https://www.lews.com/rods
Reel totally depends on ig you prefer a baitcaster, open bale or reel in a can. Prices and quality are all over the map.
Like anything else in life, spend $ on quality stuff first and it should last for ages and give you years of reliable service.
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19 hours ago, Ziemann said:
I agree with @Deephaven
A ton of us would still be on Cat if they actually cared about snowmobiles and their core ZR/RR trail riding market. There were 3 choices:
1. Buy a Blast
2. Buy a ThunderCat with Power Steering (Yamaha had that idea 10 years ago for their ill handling 4 strokes)
3. Buy the same old damn ZR/RR that they have been offering for years
Gee, thanks for the exciting options..... *yawn*
I am sad to see Cat in this condition in the market. I would have gladly ordered a new '22 if they could have offered something that I actually wanted ( maybe something different that the last 5 sleds I've purchased?). They neglected me as a customer and I'm pissed. I bought 29 new Cats for my wife and I since 1990, but my patience had a limit....
Nothing new or special for the dirt segment either. Country Cat and other dealers are smartly taking on Kawasaki.
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5 hours ago, racinfarmer said:
Polaris has had all kinds of positions posted for a year or more.
When I looked at Cat/Textron's listed a couple months ago, there was 1 job posted. Last week there was probably 20+.
I've been passively looking for a new job for the last 6-8 months, so I do stop in on occasion and just noticed it.
Are you good at picking out colors?
If so... You're hired!
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Ever ride Tonka?
in HCS General Forum
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Personally speaking I don't agree with non DOT approved vehicles being ridden on roadways. But, if a particular roadway is approved for seasonal usage by its local resident's and the 'law' approves it to connect from one trail to another, then so be it. Frankly around here from what I can see, most of these recreational vehicles are used by out of town weekend warriors for bar hopping more than anything else. Sort of like sleds. 🤣
DOT approved, meaning like a motorcycle with approved tires, exhaust, mirrors, lights, indicators.