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And IL and IA and anywhere else when this is the only place that has rideable snow......  But yeah, it's a shithole.... Oh and stay on the marked trails or stay the fuck home...

We cancelled our ride due to trails being wrecked last week from rain and warm temps.  It was definitely bad timing for the event.

Yes, complete shit hole with 25,000 miles of maintained snowmobile trails that the majority of is across privately owned property.

The state and federal land that I am familiar with has designated maintained trails and off trail is not permitted.  Sure you can ride the forest roads but exactly what is the fucking point of riding on a graded road that ends at a paved road vs riding on a maintained trail?  

In Northern WI the UP is close for those that want to find legal off trail.

3 hours ago, krom said:

Do you want me to record and attach the radio adds?, If I remember, I'll take a pic of the huge billboard that is advertising the discount

 

 

BRP puts all of their factory promotions and rebates on the website.  Always has.  Local dealerships?  Definitely could be.  They can sell the sleds for whatever they want.

Bottom line is this is a great thing for sledders and hardly anything new for BRP.  It would happen every season prior to the parts shortage. 

At any rate, they are offering rebates on Can Am products and here they are on the website....

There is no legal off trail riding for the public in WI other than ditches and right of way's and there are rules and limitations on that as well.

Interesting that the data for all of these studies comes from the University of WI Population Health Institute.  Do counties in all states collect this data in the same way?

Anecdotally people in WI drink and don't give a shit who knows about it. I've worked all over the place.  People are drinking everywhere and in every state I have ever been in and I just don't see a lot of stark contrasts. 

Whether the data is accurate or not it seems Wisconsinites can drink and drive without getting themselves killed as often. Fatal car accidents seem far more prevalent in states with fewer drinkers (at least according to their stats anyway).  And don't tell me that it's because WI is mostly rural when states like Montana and N and S Dakota have far higher rates.

There must be something to having a couple of drinks before going out for some practice with the driver instructor in high school.

1 hour ago, krom said:

Local Cat dealer has 0, doo has 34 (doo knows they are in trouble offering $2,000 in rebates on current year sleds), poo dealer has 32, Yami 0.

 

This is the only US offer I am seeing from Doo and it does not include any rebates....  But, how would this be a bad thing anyway?  Rebates were something everyone looked forward to pre-scamdemic and Doo always started offering them in early January. 

As a consumer getting back to dealers having excess inventory and factory rebates is a sign of getting back to some sort of normal market conditions.  

I'm sick and fucking tired of the situation where you are begging a dealer for a chance at a Spring order at full MSRP and that MSRP is fucking $20K plus.  That shit needs to be done.

I'm not surprised Cat has zero inventory.  You have to build sleds to have them sitting in inventory.

That LT6 sounds so fucking sweet.  I could care less what it runs the quarter in.  I'm buying one just for the noise it makes.

I really wouldn't worry about streaming.  Just buy the TV that makes the most sense to you.  I currently have 4 Samsung's running the same Tizen OS and they all connect to WIFI and stream seamlessly.  I have a box full of Roku's and Fire Sticks that are no longer in use.  If there is an issue you can just connect a Roku or any other streaming device anyway so this should not be a consideration when purchasing a new TV these days.  

51 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

I’m a Sony guy. I wouldn’t buy a Samsung toothbrush

I hear Sony makes awesome toothbrushes.

This one:  https://www.samsclub.com/p/samsung-55in-crystal-ultra-hd-4k-smart-tv/P03000253?xid=plp_product_12 is the exact same TV as the 8000 series at Best Buy: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-55-class-8000-series-led-4k-uhd-smart-tizen-tv/6452996.p?skuId=6452996#anchor=productVariations.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "realistic" but that sometimes is when motion smoothing is turned on which most people call the "soap opera effect".  Meaning it is very bright, artificially enhanced and smoothed and is terrible looking.  I would check your old TV to make sure motion smoothing is not turned on.

Otherwise it's really all about preference.  For $1K the Q80 does have better black levels but if you are watching in a lit room or during daytime that really does not matter much anyway.

If you would rather save the $500 for sled parts just get that 55" Samsung at Sam's club or Best Buy.

The dealers I work with don't have that kind of inventory.  The largest of the two has 5 new Doo's in stock (2 summits and 3 backcountrys - no trail sleds) and 5 Poos in stock (2 of those are Boosts).  They have 3 Doos showing incoming and 5 Poos incoming with 3 of the Poos being the 4 stroke model.

Last season he had to turn away a ton of spring orders on Doos because of limited allocations.  Yes, the interest rates and economy will likely slow things down but I'm guessing he will still take orders for everything he can get from them.

I have all Samsung's in the new house we just moved into and have been happy with them.  You didn't mention the most important factor - budget.  If you have $1K to spend get the Q80B.  If you have $500 to spend just get the 8000 series.  

My parents have the 50" 8000 and when I am visiting and watch it the picture is really very good for the money and apps on it work with no issues but they only need Netflix, Prime Video, Youtube TV and Youtube. 

I thought those coffee beans that monkeys eat and shit out was supposed to be the finest in the world......

Poo was testing a 4 stroke turbo back in 2015 so it's due for release.

Cat is smart to limit the 600 to only what they can produce so hopefully they get them shipped before the season starts.  My dealer is still being severely limited on Doo orders.  Last season he had 345 spring orders.  Do only allowed him to place orders for half of that amount.  Because of that there were waiting lists already again for this season. These crazy prices are probably not going down anytime soon.

Cannot see Yamaha staying in the game much longer with only an ancient chassis offering.  Sidewinder sales have been abysmal at best with my dealer not selling a single one for the past couple of seasons.  Only completely clueless cat riders would buy anything in a procross for 24' and most will just keep riding their decades plus old machines yet another year or possibly even more to wait and see if a new engine and chassis combo finally materializes in 25' or 26'. 

What's funny is none that I ride with want to be early adopters even though they have been waiting forever.  They are just saying whats another few years when we have already been waiting this long.  They are going to wait for any new engine to be guinea pig tested by others first.

10 hours ago, Sled_Hed said:

Thought it looked like one of "Rampages" sleds.

It is.  I bought it from Brian a couple years ago.  The amount of time he has in his projects is incredible.  I appreciate the fact that he is the anti-restorer and comes up with some genius stuff.

Couple more fun things about the rat.  The hood is fabricated from old Ford truck fenders.  The door mat snow flap is a vintage item he borrowed from someone's front porch and yes it runs.

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

Nice JD snowblower....but forgive I have to ask.....what is that pile of fuck in the background?   

Sorry, I wasn't supposed to leak that and forgot the cover was off.  It's the new catalyst with big bore engine option.

Actually it's a rat sled built out of a 1970 Johnson wide track chassis.  Kohler one lunger with a Scorpion drive.  When I bought it a couple years back I had grand visions of riding it in the local vintage runs but just do not have the time.  Sold it a couple of weeks ago.  It's now in the Yoop with the Yeti. 

The skull talks when you braap the throttle.  More innovation in this rat then anything cat has put out over the last 10 years. 

1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

BRP 2S's don't come standard with a recoil.  

Why? 

Even my fucking snowblowers have E-start and one of those is a 1982 John Deere.  Watch the video posted in this thread to see how even the fucking Lester's like SHOT.

22 minutes ago, HSR said:

So what kind of industry changing advancements will we see in the new Cat engine? Their last attempt with an 800 didn't work out so well 

Will it at least be DI ?

Hopefully it's a yamaha.

My search for a yamaha 850 two stroke came up empty.  

Collaboration with Petronas.

9 minutes ago, stinkipinki said:

Yamaha knows more about precision engine building then Polaris and Ski-Doo will ever dream of, 

What does a blind cat innovation defender do when asked about performance?  Talk about yamaha. 

OR WAIT FOR IT

F7................................................................................. 

stinki just talking out of his ass about shit he parrots off the internet from other brand blind loyal cat riders.  We have had several in the group and at one time 25 years ago we were all blind cat loyalists. 

That changed for a majority of us when something better came along.  A couple just buried their heads in the sand and kept pretending that cat was still innovating and building the best shit for the money.  They too would parrot shit that none of the rest of us were ever even experiencing and that's even though they were first hand witness to it over those two decades of riding.

When you see posts like "the mountain guys are just raving about this new catayst" one has to wonder what the fuck are they even comparing it too?  An 850 turbo mountain sled from doo or poo?

7 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

From watching that video my assessment of the turbo stands and F7 was wrong.

The sled at launch in 2020 has always had a turbo on it.  It was simply calibrated to keep the HP constant regardless of elevation.  A turbo does not have to be increasing performance at all times to be classified as a fucking turbo. 

This was a design decision made for reliability and to keep fucktards from grenading the engine at sea level and then crying to anyone that would listen about how unreliable the 850 engine is. 

It was the first 2 stroke factory turbo with a warranty from any manufacturer.  The Boost was the first factory turbo 2 stroke flatland sled with a warranty.

Cat/textron is not even offering a high performance 2 stroke option in it's all new for 2024 sled.  Maybe 2025?  There's always a maybe for next season for their fans.