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Crnr2Crnr

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    is it time for a price discussion... and I'm starting with Cat only because I saved the pricing from a couple years ago. 

    looking at the 2024 ZR 8000 RR 137 which is basically a bng sled... https://arcticcat.txtsv.com/snowmobile/trail-utility/zr-rr

    that's a 21% increase over MSRP and a 50% increase over snowmageddon pricing for an unchanged model.  

    sure, materials and labor have increased since 2020... and it looks like the 2020 MY was the time to buy. 

     

     

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    10 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

    Lots of guys are getting out because of the poor snow. SxS are the big thing. 

    for $40K ?  :roflcrying:

    you can buy a ROAD LEGAL mid-sized truck truck for the price of some of them, even more dumb than wasting $ on a sled

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    1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said:

    Buy the RXC or the Mountain without it. Solved in a sentence. 

    for amusement... let's say I want a plain 2023 Catalyst ZR 600 129... without e-start?  

    I also don't want the Rip2 track... I want an Ice Track or Cobra to stud

    I also don't want the Fox IFP shocks... I'm going to upgrade to Elka's or Custom Axis

    suddenly I'm into this $14K sled to the tune of $20K without paying for labor

    is this making any sense yet?

    now if Cat offered a 129" RXC I can skip the track (I like the Cobra), I can live with the shocks or add DSC's and opt for the non e-start model and save 25lbs or more.  they aren't offering that for 2024's... but I'd be into it for $4K less than the 129 Base model with upgrades... right?

    example... if I were to snowcheck a 128" Polaris XCR 650 I can choose and pay for a 1.25" Ice Ripper, 1.35" Cobra or 1.6" Cobra.    

    1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said:

    It is what it is. Not going to change because you want it to. It is a majority rule. I will never again buy a sled without. Life will go on. To whom? People buy stuff all the time. Starter goes out after warranty. Things like that. Not rocket surgery or brain science C.

    when you can make a more coherent response I'll attempt to answer... 

    what are your top priorities in the enjoyment of a snowmobile?

    to keep this simple for you... 

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    2 hours ago, stinkipinki said:

    People will pay $2500 for a $65 touchscreen.

    why?  we're so addicted to this shit... 

    look what you can get for $2000 

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-85-class-bravia-xr-x90k-4k-hdr-full-array-led-google-tv/6499748.p?skuId=6499748

     

     

    all this 'tech' or... solid chassis, good mill, great brakes and suspension?  I'll pass on the tech, especially when it inevitably fails a few years out of warranty and it costs more to get the 'tech' repaired than it initially cost in the first place.    

     

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    2 hours ago, ZR6000RR said:

    The cost is about $300.00. The weight is about 25 pounds. If you cannot handle that, then you are the pussy. Remember, your sleds engines are no longer made and the parts are not made forever. LIving on borrowed time I would say.

    25lbs... think about what you just said there.  how hard is it to pull the recoil twice.  you are the most daft individual I've seen on a sled forum, truly.  shame, Suzuki made great engines and if you knew your asshole from your elbow... well, you clearly don't so no need to further elaborate. 

    2 hours ago, Tripleflipper said:

    Weight is more important to me. If I'm already spending $ 20k on a sled another 6 - 7 hundred bucks aint gonna make any difference to me. But I hear you on the cost thing.

    there's 164 posts in this thread discussing lighter weight, so why make potentially unnecessary weight mandatory?  optional... I get that 100% 

    silly as it may sound, I can tell when my scratchers are down and creating additional drag in the woods under 40mph

    1 hour ago, mnstang said:

    It's $400 difference from what I've seen on the models in looking at.  I'd rather not pay $400 for something I'm going to remove on day one.

    this is one topic we seem to fully agree upon.  how much did all the e-start components from your High Country weigh?  I tried looking for the post but... 

    and... $200 or $400 is a small percentage of the current pricing, but it's something I don't feel one should be required to pay for... especially if you just intend to remove it. 

    1 hour ago, ZR6000RR said:

    Can always sell it. It is what it is.

    to whom?  

    how much would your dealer charge you to remove it all, since you don't work on your own sled?

    how much would he then charge you to re-install it when you trade it in or to sell it to a family member?

    math mah boy... simple f'ng math here

    42 minutes ago, racinfarmer said:

    I've had blue skis on Cats since 2000.

    I did go through a white and a gray ski phase for a while, but now it is pretty much blue or black on everything.  

    I want some pink ones... just to invoke a confrontation.  Of course I'd put them on my brothers RXC without telling him.   :)

     

    1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

    And you can in MN as well if you have manufacturers plates.

    Regardless jimwit can't break 50 anyways...except the one time he hit 74.  Man does he beat the fuck out of his machines.

    well shut my mouth, Polaris has joined in on the further overpriced pussification of America

    estart only on the 2024 XCR 650

    https://snowmobiles.polaris.com/en-us/build-option/?subcategory=1073769904__CatalogContent&CatalogContentId=746879__CatalogContent&category=1073769904__CatalogContent

    5 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

    And you can in MN as well if you have manufacturers plates.

    Regardless jimwit can't break 50 anyways...except the one time he hit 74.  Man does he beat the fuck out of his machines.

    no wonder there's b-Last's everywhere out there... the home state of the last remaining American snowmobile manufacturers has a 50mph speed limit.

    if I were Polaris or Cat I'd move to Wisconsin, Michigan or somewhere normal.

     

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    40 minutes ago, Tripleflipper said:

    You missed the point, it's added weight. Some don't want the extra weight, why force it on them.

    weight and cost 

    See below 

    12 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

    Yep, I'd prefer not to pay extra for it, and it's a hassle to deal with maintaining the battery. 

    Plus you'd think if Cat was looking at every way to lose weight, that's an easy one. At least until the next lawsuit so they can get the SHOT thingy from doo.

    If it came down to paying for better shocks (say what they put on the sno pros around 2018 over the lxr ifp specials) or estart, I'd take the better shocks all day long.

    I'd rather blow money on suspension than gayges, Garmin's, estart or any of that horse shit.

    if you can't pull start your modern 2S low compression FUEL INJECTED sled, find a new f'ng hobby 

    two things about this I can't let go of for some reason...

    #1.  Don't force people to get electric start, especially on a f'ng 600.  I don't want the weight or cost associated with it!  Polaris has this figured out, so figure it out Cat. 

    #2.  Track options... one track to choose from take it or leave it?   I'm not the least bit interested in negotiating with the dealership on installing a track that best suits my needs after my snow check sled is built.