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Also forward steering post on the XRS makes a difference. I noticed it between mine and prestons X 

Just now, f7ben said:

The seat? I didn’t notice much difference ergo wise on the xrs

Ride height helps on the xrs to make it feel taller. People say the xrs G4 is tippy, I’m used to the axys so it was an easy transition for me. For the people used to the bar stool seat low rider doos they sure feel weird

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

They are really ugly....the g4 is fugly too

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Also the Barney with the seat all the way up is closer to axys ergos than the g4

i rode all 3 back to back. The g4 is more of a sit down position than my barney

The xrs sits a bit higher so it helped me bridge the gap.

They are so fucking ugly only cat would release it. Fuck I almost puked when I saw a few parked at a bar last weekend. I could’ve parked next to them but thought of Ben and decided it’s best to stay far away from those combusting contraptions!! 

Just now, f7ben said:

You’re right..... it’s way more

youre gay ass 160hp sled is 20 lengths behind in a race

Not when a stump or river gets in your way it’s not!!!

Just now, f7ben said:

Also sleds have been good for a decade now. You don’t have to have 25k in the garage to ride good iron. You can spend 5k in a sled and have 95% of what the new iron offers

Riding a Barney 4 stroke is not 95% of what a G4 or axys offer. Sbyl faggot!!

I never understood that. If you have so much money wrapped up into sleds, why not do everything you can to go and ride regardless of where you live instead of waiting for the local trails to be ok when you can ride? 
 

I drive where ever, regardless of if I have rideable snow or not to ride with buddies. Shit I’d drive up to the iron range and the north shore every other weekend if snow isn’t good in WI. 

37 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Bitches quit this sport. I’ll ride till I die

Well when you don’t live in WI the UP or MN, I’d quit snowmobiling too living in MI or Indiana!! 

5 hours ago, bussman said:

No, others, mainly Analer and the Doo Kool Aid drinkers have off the charts ACDS. This thread is exact proof of it.  

 

Drew and I switched sleds for awhile. There is more in common with the two than different. Within minutes were both comfortably riding the other sled hard.  I really liked Doo’s engine better, but I liked my handling and shock set up better. But neither the Doo handling or Cat engine are bad. But not a chance in hell is his Doo worth paying that much more for especially seeing it still is in the dark ages literally with those shitty headlights. 

Steve has the halogens, I got LEDs that are just as good as my axys lights were.

1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

I was just curious and I agree that taking everything into account the Doo is worth it. 

3k is a substantial difference though. Definitely something to consider when buying a new sled. 

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

I just built comparable sleds...ZR800RR and a Renegade XRS...the Cat is just over 3000.00 less.

Again, there’s nothing wrong with the RR, it’s a sweet sled, but for 3k more you get better resale, better build quality, an 850 DI engine, 4 years of warranty, and an updated chassis that was recently completely redesigned. i think that price difference is easily justified imo. 

Build quality - doo 

resale - doo

engine - clearly doo. Ctec is good, but not even close to etec good. The midrange power of the 850 is night and day better then the ctec and I drove 2 of them this weekend. Run quality is better overall on the etec.

eros - personally being 6’3” the plastics on the cat annoy the shit out of me. Doo eros are better, Polaris are the best for me. 
 

front suspension - cat 

rear suspension - doo r motion ftw

fuel economy - doo 850 wins compared to 2 ctecs. 
 

Doo gives you a 4 year warranty on snowchecked sleds, cat is only 1 which is ridiculous.
 

overall, the saying “you get what you pay for” holds true. You pay for premium build quality and QC. That being said Brian’s RR is nice. The 19 limited Brian’s buddy has is a piece of shit in comparison. Shit is falling apart on it already with under 800 miles and he doesn’t ride hard at all. 

1 minute ago, Doos said:

Maybe, but I think it may have been Fett Bro’s. Tried going to Dootalk to refresh my memory haha

Sounds right. 

1 minute ago, Doos said:

That and they’re made from shit brittle material. I wish I could remember the name of company I used for the rollers, probably still have a set or two in the garage. 

The heavy duty grip and rip high torque rollers?

mine were replaced under warranty so we’ll see how long they last 

Just now, Anler said:

I had a rip 1 on my 2012 and used to hang the skis on that thing like a boss. It was shitty in deep snow but on the trail it was fine. 

You’ve ridden with me on my xcr. Is there any other sled that comes out of the hole that hard that you’ve seen? 

Just now, Doos said:

That’s been an issue for years. Always changed mine out before riding the sled.

People are too hard on them going from forward to reverse and forward again. I’ve been a lot easier on mine since. 

I was running at 8100 rpm too in 50 degree weather. I need to get that rpm down, I’ll drop the clickers down 1 and see where I’m at.

2 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said:

I doubt that. They aren't cheap at all.  And you're not getting both center and rear for $500.  Those are sold individually. 

I have $1,2?? in a rear and center Exit X1 for and SC5 in a '12 TNT.  

RIP2 studded is way better 

 

BS

I’ve had both, and ridden multiple G4’s. Prestons has a rip 2 with 135 1.352” studs. I have a rip 1 with 90 1.5” studs. Hole shots were identical for both of us multiple times this weekend, and we raced probably 3-4 times across groomed lakes. Top end was identical. We were dead even for probably a mile

1 minute ago, Anler said:

JT was on here the other day complaining about the doo 850 spitting gas and oil. Said its pretty common

@jtssrx

Yep, broken rollers in the secondary too. Ask me how I know  

so far I haven’t noticed any gas and oil spitting from my valves.  

2 minutes ago, Anler said:

Sounds like the skidoo 850 is spitting gas and oil out of the exhaust valves. 2020 poo 850 has been pretty great from what I have heard. I plan on ordering one or picking up a 2020. 

I’d have 0 concerns with a 2020+ 850. First years on the other hand, no thanks. 
 

also, I haven’t heard of any issues with the 850 doos except exhaust valve gaskets

2 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said:

Get rid of that Rip1 and replace it with a Rip2

My rip 1 with the studs I have has no traction issues at all. It honestly hooks hard. I’m leaving it. 
 

regardless of the track, the G4 won’t come out of the hole like an Axys pro XC sled will. 

If you don’t spend some time setting an xrs up you shouldn’t own one imo. People are shortening shocks because they don’t know how to set up a sled. 
 

Also, I laugh at the guys on doo talk saying they can’t get their G4’s to corner without pushing hard so they throw C&As on and then complain about steering effort  

We rode in mashed potato trails in 50* temps all weekend and I wasn’t pushing at all. 7.5 shapers down the center, stock 4” on the outside on pilot 5.7s with bergstrom shims. It rails pretty good

Just now, Anler said:

Weird how Polaris has had the #1 front end since 2015 while skidoo and cat have to keep updating theirs only to still not be as good.

Brian’s sled reminded me of the front on the axys. It’s flat and predictable. I love that.

the G4 took me a few rides to get used to, but after I got it dialed in for me, i feel a lot better about it then I did at first. It still isn’t as good as the other two though. 

Nothing hooked as good as my xcr though, that thing was an animal out of the hole.