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7 hours ago, Frostynuts said:

Nice to see consumers are finally starting to smarten up, and quit paying the stupid prices that have reached absurdity over the last couple of years. 

I see Ram is offering up to 10K off their stupid suggested list prices. Kinda gives you an idea of the fukking they and all the other manufacturers have been giving the must have right now crowd. Ford and a lot of other brands are offering huge rebates as well. Tractor lots are overflowing also. It wouldn,t break my heart to see a bunch of these dealers go belly up. There greed should not go un-punished.

Smart consumers, that have held off buying major purchases, and have the cash or great credit, will probably be able to get super deals within the next year, or two. 

I,m watching the markets, and willing to wait them out, ready for a great deal, when they finally get here.

You’re going to be waiting a long time. 

On 5/14/2023 at 7:10 PM, BOHICA said:

They will be able limit how far you can drive.  Pay more to access more range you can use in a day.  Every 100 miles we require a fee.  

You do realize that your beloved Tesla is practically leading the way with this bullshit, right? 
 

SDVs (software defined vehicles) are coming folks. True reality. It’s probably even a bigger push inside automotive companies, than EV is, currently. Don’t worry, this won’t lower the cost of vehicles at all. 
 

Electrical accessories and EV range is just the beginning. Imagine if you could pay a monthly fee for more HP or a number of performance/handling improvements. Yup yup. It’s a comin. Thank the millennials and Gen Z. 

8 hours ago, jdsky said:

This is the way bloated Fortune 500's have been reducing white collar work force forever but I guess to some it's new.  In this case less than 10% of GM's bloated staff took the offer.  1 month pay for every year plus cobra is pretty standard fare and nothing earth shattering.  So you've worked there 20 years and you get 20 months pay with health insurance.  BFD for 20 years of your life.  

What mostly happens is that anyone that was planning to leave anyway saw it as a nice going away bonus or an opportunity to earn double while at their new job.  Anyone not already planning to leave that could easily land another job would now take it.  It's just another way to get rid of good talent.  

l had good friends that I worked with for years that went out and landed as good or better replacement jobs and then after the waiting period came back for better pay and better positions a year or two later.  Same thing will happen at GM.  The only way to get rid of the shit is to lay their assess off.  

 

12 months pay was the max draw. 

Had both. Even two in the same chassis. 
If straight line traction/acceleration was what I was going for, I’d have the longer track. I’m happier with the 129 for what I bought the sled for. 

Says the weirdo that has two separate accounts on the same fucking web forum account. 
 

pSyChIatRIsT!  

24 minutes ago, racer254 said:

What's clever about it?  Offering buyouts has been done forever.

He thinks he’s clever and reading a Yahoo ad is all there is to it. 

1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

If you reread you will see that I said they were selling short for on trail, not off.  Not a deep play sled at all but an Assault for trail and a longer track for having fun in real snow I could see making sense.

 

We are talking about dual use sleds in deep off trail and trail riding. You said we were selling them short without being specific at where we were doing so. So, my post stands. 

Tipped up rails or not the only place an Assualt is better than a 129-137 on trail is putting power down in the straightaways. Total waste of time imo. 
 

The amount of people in Michigan that I see riding a 155 on the trails (like legitimately all day trail riding) and guys trying to play in the deep back woods shit on 144 class sleds, is astounding. I’d rather not ride before I’d ever take my Indy off trail or my SKS trail riding. 

17 hours ago, mnstang said:

I agree.  If I could only have one sled id just have to stop trail riding or off trail riding.  

I thought for a couple seconds about ordering a riot and then I remembered every moment of riding it would always be compromised, it would not be epically good at anything.  It's like the guys with the crossovers, even if they can go places and not get stuck, that's not a win on its own.  its not going to work nearly as good as a deep snow sled.  Just like the deep snow sled CAN go down the trail, it's not going to work like a trail sled.  And a crossover is like that all the time and there's never a pay off because it's all compromise.

 

Yup. Totally agree. 
 

While up to my in laws place, a month ago, our friends/neighbors up there asked me if I wanted to go on a “guys ride” later in the afternoon that day. I agreed. I’m riding with two Assaults. One 850 with a 1.6 cobra and the other was. Boost with a 2”. Fourth sled was a Riot 146, didn’t even pay attention to the track. I had my 129 Indy that has a Rip2 on it. We end up back in these gas well areas where there’s some hills, only about 20-30” of snow. None of these yahoos could hardly pull a line and all they are doing is running up and down the hills. Even had a couple of them stuck. I didn’t have a problem and spent a lot of my time on my seat because it was so lame. They kept saying to me “show off” and “when are you going to take us UP back country riding to show us what’s up?” Yeah, um, like never? If you’re struggling in less than 3’ of snow, in the open, and you’ve been riding all your life, you need to just stick to trail riding then. Off trail riding is in fact more than just how much track or ski stance you have. These guys were logging road only guys. Which is fine if that’s what you want to do but it’s not what I drag my SKS to the UP for. 

15 hours ago, Deephaven said:

You guys should really ride that assault instead of blaming the ones riding it.  I am all for dedicated sleds but you are all selling it really short.  That being said for the OP id build a 155 and either have an assault or 137 to go with it.

I’ve had two. Even spent a bunch of time trying to make the first one into a mini RMK (SKS 146) Still not going back. They are not great on the trail and they are mainly a logging road sled off trail. Get them in the trees, gulleys, etc, and you’re fucked. 

1 minute ago, Cat45 said:

I never would've agreed with you untill last year. I've never been stuck so many times in my life as i was with that little 137. In my younger days i went everywhere on old 121s but the snow must be deeper now....

No, you just weren’t going far enough off the trail, that’s all. 
 

Lots of guys have tried to come off trail ride with us with their 137 x 1.75 sleds. They usually don’t have a very good time. Not trying to be a dick but we actually won’t even bring them anymore. You spend all day digging them out and you can’t even go where you really want to go. 

3000 miles on my 2015 RMK. Original 2.4” 155 track. It’s lived it’s entire life out in the woods here in Michigan and a few trips out west. It’s missing the tip off 2-3 lugs, that’s it. The PC is a nice track but I don’t see it holding up any better than the Polaris tracks. The only Cat guy left in our group has similar mileage on his 16 M and he has just as much track damage as I do. 
 

The 155 is nice to explore areas that sleds typically shouldn’t be in, that’s for sure. The still get stuck if you try hard enough though. 
 

Now that I’ve had two sleds for both types of riding, I’d have to give up riding one of the two types before I went back to one sled. Soooo nice to not have to compromise. 

9 hours ago, SnowRider said:

You should do more listening and less lecturing on topics you’re clueless about   

I literally only posted that just because you talk like a man with a paper asshole. I bet money you don’t know one gay or trans person. You’re just posting this shit  to wind people up and waste time out of your pathetic fucking life. 

50 minutes ago, Cwhite138 said:

Lin I get and why we are moving to data to lighten up harness and to send better data. However I find sent overly complex. I'm sure there are reasons to use it, some one much smarter than me would know.

Faster. Thats it. 

25 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Cool story.  Knowing a trans person doesn’t make you an expert.  Their chosen circle of professionals, family, and confidants are capable of making their own decisions.  

Look who’s fucking talking. Talk about mentally unstable. Anyone that believes in the shit you spew here, as wholeheartedly as you do, need serious mental help. I hope to fucking god you didn’t reproduce. 

26 minutes ago, Doug said:

We're heading to Munising tomorrow for probably the last ride.

They did get a refresh yesterday, from what I heard. They needed it. The first picture I posted is from the Lake Superior outlook, on Trail 8/H-58 just south of the Hurricane River Campground Friday, before they got the LES storm yesterday. We could still get into/out of Seney and Grand Marais. No good trying to get into Newberry but should be no need for you guys. Everything north of Seney has plenty of snow. We will be back up there in two weeks for our annual spring ride with the off trail sleds. 

Wife’s sled has the Polaris M10 in it. Great for her but I don’t like it. 

1 hour ago, Cat45 said:

I should look at a 153 then, old and fat sounds similar lol. Are the older m8 sleds decent or should i stick with a proclimb/procross? I've trail ridden for 40 yrs and can stay in front of most still but off trail is kicking my ass! I hate getting stuck....

The older M was a good chassis but the PC is better, imo. Like mnstang said though, the PC chassis still leaves some to be desired. For me, it’s that it doesn’t get through the snow on its side very. The newer PC chassis (can’t remember the year they changed 16 maybe?) is better with the newer/skinnier body work and suspension but I still believe having all that spindle and a arm hanging out there hurts it. The Alphas didn’t fix that either, imo. 
 

If you have to have a Cat I would stay as new as your budget allows. Lower secondary steering post mount was an issue but there’s an update for that. I still think you’d be fine with a 141 x 2.25 but buy the 153 if you want that cushion. Just be ready to hate yourself if you have to ride a lot of trails to get where you want to play. They can overheat ridiculously easy. Even with scratchers. I’m not familiar enough with the 141” sleds to know what they had for cooling systems. 

Stopped in Gaylord and rode today on the way home. Was still puking snow there when we left. It was 45, raining and mostly bare in Gaylord when we drove by headed to the UP yesterday morning. Never left the trail. Blower pow over the hood for nearly every one of the 70 miles we ripped off quick before loading up and heading the rest of the way home. Wished I had the SKS in a few spots. 

UP yesterday (Grand Marais to be exact). 

On 2/25/2023 at 12:21 AM, racinfarmer said:

After a few good sessions in the heated ultrasonic cleaner and some troubleshooting, she fired up and chooched along.

Not well, but chooched nonetheless.

Now, how many here want to tell me how great the Horrible Fraught furniture rollers make excellent sled rollers?

The major pot head that I bought my SKS from used them. The carpet on them was sticky from all the smoke film. Guess what I’m still struggling to clean off the fucking sled? Holy shit I wouldn’t want to see the rest of his garage. 

On 2/28/2023 at 6:28 PM, Cwhite138 said:

Hahaha I thought the same thing. But they also come with a 2.0 amg engine. So who knows what they are doing for powertrain management... I have a feeling it's nothing out of the norm. However the Germans started using data for their throttle pedals 

A lot of engine sensors, etc are going to LIN/SENT. 

14x” class track with a 2” or more paddle, is fine for 90% of Michigan off trail riding. You need to have someone who really knows where the honey holes are to need a 150” class sled. Been off trail/bush/tree riding in the UP since before it was cool. I have a 155 now strictly because I’m old, fat and lazy. 

On 3/11/2023 at 12:07 PM, Crnr2Crnr said:

what'd ya find that ya had ta have?

Pretty much the long track match to the 800 Indy I just bought. 19 SKS 155 800. 600 miles on it. Coated in cig and weed smoke film though because obviously that’s where this guy and his wife smoked all their shit at, in the garage, sitting on this sled. 

Going to pick up new to me sled #2 tomorrow. Sold the 600 Indy too. All while the winter is for shit. Oh well. There’s always next year. 

3 hours ago, SkisNH said:

If I had a son I would recommend being a lineman to him....if I thought he was owner material, I would say plumbing contractor.  Crazy money in those 2 fields right now.

People will disagree with me but there’s good money to be made in automotive too. No complaints here. 2 year associates degree and that was only because my currently employer requires it. Cost me $15k sadly. I already had all of the certifications the college wanted for my graduation capstone before I even started. I know a few guys who are already getting into EV battery repair. Damn good money in that already and it’s only going to get bigger. 

As far as this student loan relief bullshit, I agree that people need to pay their bills. On the other hand, this country is BLEEDING money to many more worse things than this right now and I think it’s hilarious that there are so many people in an uproar over this but just shaking their heads at the rest. 

5 hours ago, sleepybrew said:

you are probably trying to get away from the wire but if not i run plugged in without the nose piece. then no worries about the sunshield getting broke either. i switched to smoked and it was great yesterday,  even while snowing

I ran the wire all day yesterday too because with Michigan weather, and my work load these past two years, I can’t seem to get enough riding in so I take everything and adjust as much as I can, without being a bother to the group I’m riding with. I was riding with the wife yesterday so I was doing a little experimenting but the riding was good too so I wanted to just keep riding. If you stop too much, the wife gets bored and will just ask to go back to the house sometimes. 

5 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

hate to say we told you so, but we told you so 

the range of vision is fantastic

loosen the straps so it goes further up your nose/cheeks... 

if I have one gripe about this lid... it would be for them to add more ventilation ports to open or close, especially the two little ones on the front.

make sure both those ports are open, buddy had the lower one closed yesterday on his and was bitching about it until I showed him it was shut.  then, no more problems.  these need some airflow to function correctly for the mips system, sometimes if you just stand up while going fast you can feel the heat get sucked out.   fwiw, he rides with a big grandpa windshield, side deflectors, hand guards... etc, because we're not seventeen year olds trying to look cool.       

Hey, I own it. Honestly, I missed out not trying one on at the Polaris dealer when I was in Munising or I would have bought one right then. 
 

17 or 75, what the fuck ever. I’m not running the iron dog or my trap line. I typically don’t get too cold when riding, I get too hot. The hand guards are more for protection from flying shit on my trail sled. I’ve taken a small chuck of ice to the hand before, it hurts like hell. If they block some wind off my hands, added bonus. Also, I do like the look. So what.