3 minutes ago, Snake said:

Vin has a BLM mask he wears everywhere.

I get compliments on it all the time.

14 minutes ago, s pump said:

The chart Vince, the chart.

The chart is an embarrassment for this country, hospitalizations are going through the roof. There's a reason republican leaders are now pushing the mask.

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Vice President Mike Pence, who has been inconsistent with wearing a mask in public, on Sunday offered his most forceful endorsement thus far of wearing a face covering to protect from coronavirus.

"If your local officials, in consultation with the state, are directing you to wear a mask, we encourage everyone to wear a mask in the affected areas. And where you can't maintain social distancing, wearing a mask is just a good idea, and it will, we know, from experience -- will slow the spread of the coronavirus," Pence, who leads the White House coronavirus task force, said during a trip to Dallas.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urges everyone to wear a "cloth face cover when they have to go out in public," noting that masks are critical "in case the wearer is unknowingly infected but does not have symptoms."

 

14 minutes ago, ford_428cj said:

LA just closed beaches for the 4th of July weekend...

 

Lets be honest here ...

Death rate numbers are below a tenth of a percent. Why keep up the pandemic stuff then

Where did you get .1%?

I'm pretty sharp with numbers and my math is coming out to 4.96%

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

5 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

I bet this one turns some of  you right on! 🤣🤣

 

 

Another whale

1 minute ago, s pump said:

What does that chart prove? That we are the best at testing? Merica wins again

 

It's OK to pull your head out of your ass now, republican leaders across the board are doing it now.....albeit late, but better late than never.

Like ole Bill Clinton said: "It's the economy stupid" 

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House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday said he believes in wearing masks because "I do not want to shut the economy back down."

"Wearing the mask is the best opportunity for us to keep this economy open, keep us working, keep us safe and help us as we build towards that vaccine where we're in a much stronger position than any country before," the California Republican said on "Fox & Friends."

 

14 hours ago, Woodtick said:

As I recall,it was one food plant. The state never shut down.

Well they may as well get on the ball and catch up with AZ, FL, and TX.

1 minute ago, awful knawful said:

Absolutely not and no.

But I didn't call that lady trying to protect her property and herself a whale. Like your ignorant low self esteem self did.

Nice deflection though.

She's a whale dude, you don't see it because......well we know

Well it finally has started to sink in that we need some PPE if we want to get the economy going again. 

We are #1

14 hours ago, hayward said:

 

I don't see no broken fence in that video, it looks like it just swung open really easy like.

2 minutes ago, awful knawful said:

Don't see you posting up your model wife.

Holding a gun with a shoe in her left hand.

I'll wait

Let me guess your wife looks a beach whale, that's ok it goes with your low self esteem

15 hours ago, spin_dry said:

OMG LOL Barefoot and holding a gun like some carnival target

15 hours ago, DriftBusta said:

If I had the scratch to own a house like that, I'd probably hire private security.   Would have been awesome if a few of those clowns bum rushed him and he could have mowed them down.  Seriously, bust down a gate to trespass on private property, all bets are off.

What if someone on the march pulled out a piece and shot him? I also think that beached whale of a wife would be pretty useless as backup

15 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Looks like the Beverly Hillbillies mansion. 

The guy is an ambulance chaser, no reason to insult the Clampett's with that comparison.

On 6/27/2020 at 4:23 PM, spin_dry said:

What did he do other than walk around in front of a camera and pretend? 

He sold cigarettes.

Houston, TX the one doctor has been at it 100 days without a day off, must watch.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/06/29/inside-houston-coronavirus-hospital-marquez-newday-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus/

1 hour ago, Snake said:

60 plus shot.... 14 killed.

Oh! Sorry... wrong Chicago is a shithole thread....

And that has what to do with listening to the experts?

16 minutes ago, Anler said:

Not all states are having spikes. If this country goes back into lock down we are headed into a depression. 

No shit, and the best defense we have against that right now is slowing down the spread by wearing masks and practicing social distancing.

Wear a mask and keep the economy moving.

9 hours ago, spin_dry said:

It’s obvious to all except the most loyal MAGAs. A lunatic was elected. 

This.

So some major player has just come to the realization that Trump's current psyche is "fragile", his history show he's been fragile since childhood. Heel spurs, etc., I wonder what it is that some veterans see in Bunker Boy that they admire?

22 hours ago, Anler said:

Why do you suppose the death rate is going down so sharply?

Better treatment, earlier diagnosis, we have learned quite a bit since this started.

I said back when states were going to the early openings that we would see the results in several weeks, and now we're seeing the results. I will say this now; we will see the results that this current record breaking outbreak will have on the death rate in several weeks.

On 6/27/2020 at 1:53 PM, Snake said:

Masks.

Well even Pence has finally come out of the ether and is going along with what the science has been telling all of of us for quite some time now.

1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

https://apple.news/AkNBKm5ssSWaT7_Lh00u9Ig

Police Fraternities/Unions contracts with governments have emasculated management, and that is something that has to change for there to be any real change in policing behavior.

On 6/26/2020 at 11:11 AM, Highmark said:

Dude you know as well as I do that the "death counts" are highly debatable and you said now not a yearly daily average.

If you want to wear a mask then do so.   I will when required and won't when not.   Its as simple as that.   The broad call for "everywhere and anywhere in public" is BS IMHO.   If I'm golfing with 3 other guys and we all don't care I shouldn't be forced to wear a mask.   If I'm out UTV'ing with my family I shouldn't have to wear a mask.   Where you wearing a mask 100% of the time in N. Wi?

Confirmed & Probable Counts

As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease. Nationally notifiable disease cases are voluntarily reported to CDC by jurisdictions.

You're using something from April 14th, get up to date.

The current science is showing mask reduce the transmission of Covid by 50%.

The less Covid we have in this country the better it is for the economy, it's that simple.

On 6/26/2020 at 12:09 PM, Anler said:

I posted this earlier. death rate is dropping like a rock.

 

 

The PIC (Pneunomonia, Influenza, Covid) rates have gone down, what do think is going to happen to that rate over the next few weeks with ICU's filling up in AZ, FL, TX, and other states?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

We aren't seeing 1000 deaths per day right now.   Not even close. 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

 

692 deaths yesterday, 121,809 total which puts us at a 1,000 a day average. Now we also know that the recent spike in hospitalizations and ICU beds filling is going to increase the body count in coming in weeks .

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

As for the conversation regarding masks it's good to see some common sense coming into play:

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By WBTV Web Staff | June 24, 2020 at 2:17 PM EDT - Updated June 25 at 9:42 PM

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (WBTV) - North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper announced that residents will be required to wear face masks in public and that the state’s Phase 2 will continue for three more weeks, as coronavirus cases continue to rise at an alarming rate.

People must wear face coverings when in public places, indoors or outdoors, where physical distancing of 6 feet from other people who aren’t in the same household or residence isn’t possible.

This Executive Order is effective at 5 p.m. on Friday, June 26. The full executive order can be found here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PD5b7SLTbT8PnrX1Or4fSPvsJvNRCUgL/view

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/06/24/face-masks-required-public-places-north-carolina-covid-cases-rise-alarming-rate/

And of course you have governor's like Ducey of AZ, who understands and states that the only way AZ will stop the upward trend is if people will mask up, but they just can't make that decision to mandate it because....??? 

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PHOENIX — Gov. Doug Ducey is defending indoor political rallies of thousands of people without masks, even as he said the only way Arizona will stop the upward trend of infections is if people mask up and stay home.

“People’s rights to assemble are not going to be infringed in Arizona in an election year or any year,” the governor said Thursday when asked about his attendance at President Trump’s rally Tuesday. A Phoenix church was packed with about 3,000 people at the rally; most of them did not wear face coverings.

Ducey, who said he wore a mask throughout the rally, is also expected to attend two events next week with Vice President Mike Pence, including a Tucson campaign stop.

 

11 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

required in CA but no one is covering tbere cases odd 

How big of a bong hit did you do before you posted that?

California breaks coronavirus records. Gatherings in homes may fuel spread as more young people get sick

On 6/25/2020 at 8:09 AM, Highmark said:

I'll happily wear one when the business or govt facility I want to enter requires it.   I have no problem there however, I will not wear one in my car by myself or out in public in general.   

We know through research that Covid transmission is a rare phenomenon via surfaces, we also know through science that it is transmitted through aerosolization via our breath, now of course I don't wear a mask in my car, or in a parking lot, but when entering a building it's on. The rule in my office is when in the open office area you wear a mask, when in your private office with the door closed you can do whatever you want.

What's unfortunate is that after all the pain and expense of the shutdown we politicized the wearing of mask when in public, had we all been on board wearing a mask in public we wouldn't be seeing 1,000 deaths a day now or record high Covid cases causing hospitals to fill up in AZ, FL, and TX, IMO had we not politicized masks our economy would be much more open and on a much stronger footing than it is now.

On 6/25/2020 at 8:20 AM, Anler said:

And neither does Vince

On 6/25/2020 at 8:24 AM, Highmark said:

He posts selfies?      I've heard it all now.  

First off I don't post selfies as I have no social accounts such as Facebag, the pictures @Anler is talking about is with my grandsons when we were off-roading, fishing, boating, hiking, etc. in northern Wisconsin last week, I texted those pics to anler and some other friends.

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

All depends on what day it is.   I know this the few times I wore a mask I spend more time touching my face and adjusting the mask which can't be good.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article240780786.html

Wearing a face mask could put you at greater risk for coronavirus. Here’s why

 

A lot has been learned since April 25th.

Two of the biggest Trump supporters I know have been wearing masks since early on, of course I'm talking about some pretty savvy guys who are now struggling with why in the POTUS getting on board with the idea of masks as a measure to slow the spread.

BTW, you get accustomed to the handling and wearing of a mask in regards to touching, also we know it's the aerosolization of the virus being inhaled that is the conduit for spread and infection. With that said I keep hand sanitizer in the vehicle and use it before removing the mask. 

It's just common sense, just like wearing PPE on a job site

19 hours ago, spin_dry said:

I don’t know anyone that doesn’t understand this. 

I don't understand how we went through the pain and expense of shutting down and then upon opening some states said fuck the mask........... I was in your state last week, and of course I wore a mask when entering business's, the looks I got varied but for the most part I could see the wheels turning like there was some thought of maybe this motherfucker is doing the right thing.

19 hours ago, Anler said:

How is Wisconsin doing? 

Numbers are rising.

22 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Covid isn’t a big deal Anymore and shouldn’t be a concern for 99.99 percent of people.

Tell that to Governor Abbott in Texas, they have a real fucking problem down there, they went wide open May 1 and that time I said let's see what happens in 6-8 weeks.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks