Angry ginger

14 hours ago, SVT Renegade XRS said:

I don't think that's an old can on top of new 

it is you an see the spout location.  not sure 7 gallons stacked and another 4 all the way on the tails going to be real good for that sled in the long run but I'd love to be able to run into the bush 100 miles and have enough to get back to gas.  3 gallons plenty trail riding but running tote roads it's limiting.  

1 hour ago, ckf said:

Another photo from the Maine crew riding in Quebec.

missed this one,  it is a TMR sled,  good to see you really can mount the old jerry can on top of the new stackable even though doo says no.  might have to pick one up.  

On 12/2/2016 at 8:23 PM, ckf said:

Photo from some QuebecRider.com members riding in New Brunswick / Quebec.

looks like a team maine sled up front.

26 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

He is such a fuckin egomaniac

well lets face the fact he's far more accomplished than anyone on here to if he's a loser what does that make you   

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

It does too.   Less money they have to give to counties and cities.  

there is no direct benefit,  one way or another someones paying that property tax bill.  

32 minutes ago, Anler said:

Funny how people are so outraged about funding abortions and then bitch about supporting a bunch of black kids that nobody wants who grow up to be criminals and then preach about personal responsibility. Could murdered that little black kid $80,000 ago... Pfft!

spot on,  the right really should be encouraging abortion as it's the fiscally responsible decision for all.  

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

But they are the ones who will benefit from property taxes and sales taxes and what not.   What if 1000 families up and move at an average property tax of $1500 a year do to local and state govt tax revenue.  $7 mil incentive is a steal for all involved.  No question Indiana will get something from the fed govt on this.  Infrastructure spending comes to mind first.

Even if our total income taxes stayed the same its why I would like to see more taxes collected by the states and less by the fed govt collecting it and giving it back.  States could make more deals like this with more money staying home.  

Well right up to the point where they have to pay for their own infrastructure improvements, education, social services without the federal gov support

For the record in general I agree to a certain point that the feds need to step out of some things and let the states collect the money but the reality is when the shit hits the fan from states making bad decisions they are going to end up looking to the feds to step in and save them no different than say Detroit did looking to be bailed out of their bad decisions so the Feds need to have a certain level of involvement.  Education is one of the toughest things IMO because there should not be the variations in quality that exists between states although I'm not sure setting Federal standards and throwing more money at it is ever going to fix the ed system in some of the southern states.  

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

But they are the ones who will benefit from property taxes and sales taxes and what not.   What if 1000 families up and move at an average property tax of $1500 a year do to local and state govt tax revenue.  $7 mil incentive is a steal for all involved.  No question Indiana will get something from the fed govt on this.  Infrastructure spending comes to mind first.

Even if our total income taxes stayed the same its why I would like to see more taxes collected by the states and less by the fed govt collecting it and giving it back.  States could make more deals like this with more money staying home.  

sales tax yes property tax no as that does not benefit the state.  

it was the right thing to do given the timeframes involved but hardly a steal.  

8 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Chicago needs a community organizer.

i heard they once had a tremendous one who was going to become the greatest president this country has ever seen

then he got elected and was one of the worst "leaders" ever and did nothing besides stoke the fire or unrest within the black communities in most cities.  

42 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Something has to happen in the medical field with the rampant prescription use of opioid pain killers.  Many heroin users come off scrips.  

as my son pointed out when the doctor prescribed him opiates after his knee surgery-  nature provides an all natural non addictive pain killer.  He was weaned off in a week because we weren't taking any chances seen too many people start with a sports injury and then move on,  his friends brother OD'd about a year ago so at least he's aware and wanted to be off them.  

Just now, Highmark said:

$12,600 x 1000 = $12,600,000 per year.   Not too bad for a $7 mil tax incentive.  

too bad the state whose providing the incentive/subsidy is only collecting 1.3 million of that.   

1 hour ago, Cold War said:

Americans are running back to work...............unemployment rate hits 9 year low.

They must figure the gravy train is coming to an end.

workforce participation is still poor which is what keeps the rate low.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobs-report-november-2016-2016-12

The unemployment rate dropped to 4.6%, while labor-force participationas a share of the working-age population declined to 62.7%, remaining near the lowest level since the 1970s. Fewer people are joining the labor force on net partly because baby boomers are retiring in droves.

i've got no issue with what trump and the state did,,  end of the day it's better to have these people working and paying taxes but these deals need to be the exception and not become the rule because if the states shelling out 3k per year per employee and only collecting $1200 they are in a deficit until year 6 or 7.  what the feds, fica,  prop taxes are aren't directly relevant to where the money is coming from to provide the subsidy.  if the economy was stronger and these jobs could be replaced at even 75-80% of the current wage the state would be better off letting them go.  

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

These are less then $20 an hour jobs???

manufacturing jobs in that area,  most likely the average,  media said up to $25 even at 52k they are probably paying 5k a year after normal deductions in fed taxes.  

ribs in a crockpot are worse than a red baron french bread frozen pizza,  by a lot.  

5 hours ago, BOHICA said:

What happen to the tax moneys the govt takes from the 1000 employees that pay in from good paying jobs that would have otherwise left?

fed government isn't making squat on 40k a year jobs,  certainly less than 7k per person per year if thats the real cost of the subsidy.

6 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said:

A tax credit is not GIVING them anything, you moron

of course it is.  it reduces their taxes therefore they are getting something.  

1 minute ago, ckf said:

He's very good, but Gronk is harder to get on the ground after the reception

they better be resigning Bennett cause Grok while awesome is brittle and may never play an entire season again based on his history.  

7 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Is this true?  Is mc also dodging taxes like some have said on here?

Yes he works in MA lives in NH has a camp in Maine.  On the second one, nope working in mass and living in NH is about as bad as you can get tax wise cause you pay through the nose for NH property taxes yet still have to pay the MA income taxes.    

21 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

shocker huh   

he quit the intrawebs

39 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Sanders hasn't done anything in the real world except being a head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, and carpenter.   Yest what a great guy to help improve the economy.   WTF would he know about even hiring the right people.  Dude's done nothing but politics since 1971.  That's 45 of his 75 years.   Is there any wonder he is a socialist.   I mean how many choices of deodorant do we need?  

spot on

58 minutes ago, Snake said:

L-E-A-D-E-R-S-H-I-P

a skill that passed Obama by because he was inexperienced and unqualified. 

42 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Because it was getting under his skin. Do I need to recap this again? Fine. MC was 18 in 1973. He was eligible to serve in Vietnam by making a choice to do so. He chose not to. Trump took deferments because he had the ability to and chose not to go as well. For one person who chose NOT TO GO WILLINGLY to tell off another not to go willingly is a hypocritical move of the highest order. I guess I don't see why that is so hard to figure out? MC was not a draft dodger but he was still of able body to go. If he has the balls to call someone else a draft dodger, he better have laced up his boots in the same situation. 

huge difference between choosing not to serve and working the system so you don't have to serve when your number was called IMO

2 hours ago, Snoslinger said:

were you saying that when Obama made some WS picks?

and no, I was not saying that, before you ask. 

i have no issue with him(Obama) choosing people who know how the system work,  i suffer daily in a system created by academics like Liz Warren that has driven up the costs for the average person dramatically with little benefit.