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Stunting charge, burns my behind something fierce. Not the fact it exists (althought did we not already have charges for speeding or dangerous driving??), it's the fact you've had a sentence carried out upon you (seizure of vehicle and lic suspension) before you've even appeared before a judge. Further, if charges against you should be later dismissed, you've been suspended n out cost of tow, storage and likely taxi's to get around while yer wheels were impounded.

Boered.............get a life.  Odot along with other police officers, are not the bad guys here. I will however agree the rules of impaired or not have become confusing for most leaving them with really no clear idea of how much you can or not consume and stay within the law. My interpretation,  in our house, zero alcohol when driving, period. Makes it just that simple.

What is impaired driving?

Impaired driving means operating a vehicle (including cars, trucks, boats, snowmobiles and off-road vehicles) while under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

It is a crime under the Criminal Code of Canada and the consequences are serious. You may:

• lose your licence
• have your vehicle impounded
• need to pay an administrative monetary penalty
• need to attend an education or treatment program
• be fined upon conviction
• be required to install an ignition interlock device in your vehicle
• spend time in jail
• end up with a criminal record

Ontario is a leader in combating impaired driving through some of the toughest laws and programs in North America.

For more information on the consequences of operating a snowmobile or off-road vehicle while impaired please refer to the following pages

• Snowmobiles
• Off-Road Vehicles

Drinking and driving

Even one drink can reduce your ability to react to things that happen suddenly while you are driving. The effects of alcohol include blurred or double vision, impaired attention and slowed reflexes. Your life and the lives of others can change forever if you drive after drinking alcohol.

Blood alcohol concentration

The amount of alcohol in your body is measured by the amount of the alcohol in your blood. This is called blood alcohol concentration, or BAC. Once you take a drink, there is no way to guess what your BAC is.

Many factors can affect your blood alcohol level including:

• how fast you drink
• whether you are male or female
• your body weight
• the amount of food in your stomach

In Ontario and the rest of Canada, the maximum legal BAC for fully licensed drivers is 80 milligrams of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood (0.08). Driving with BAC over 0.08 is a criminal offence.

Warn range

In Ontario, your BAC does not have to be over the 0.08 legal limit to result in serious consequences. If you register a BAC from 0.05 to 0.08 (commonly referred to as the warn range), you will face provincial administrative penalties.

Drug impaired driving

Drug impaired driving is illegal. Drugs can also impair your ability to drive. This is true for both illegal drugs and prescription or over-the-counter medication.

Your out of gas Puzzle (ya pun intended), have also ridden beside 800 etec n regularly match or beat it on fuel usage. Same goes for when riding with a Cat 7000 and a 1200 Dooster. Yes I'm talking about same sleds under same conditions either both being ridden hard or both cruising. Love it or hate it, the '15 up 800 Poo is a great performer that is also very good on fuel.

22 minutes ago, Garth said:

Its a good spot for sure.

Did you run over to Windy Lake? That is IMO the best run from Sportsman.

No, was originally staying for at least one more day but lost riding partner to a serious family issue, next time.

1 hour ago, Puzzleboy said:

Was it spaghetti night? 

 

Chicken Parm was to die for good. As was the garlic bread n home made dessert.

He's terrific as is his staff. Was concerned about the set food plan but grub was fantastic. 

Enjoyed my stay at the Sportsman Lodge.

I ran into a couple of lodges in Quebec that now have the same kitchen policy. Seemed offside to me at first but both explained they have meal plans in place at specific times for quests which dramatically cuts down on their kitchen costs (for both staff and hydro for fryers n the such).

Yes thought price was a lil spendy until I saw breaky n dinner included, costing me a lil more because I'm single person in a room. Given how many rave about the place, suspect it's money well spent.

Staying at the Sportsman for three days starting tomorrow, came highly recommended.

I used a thin tie strap on my '07 F1000 which worked well. Kept spare TS in the dash bag just in case I needed to remove pod 

^ Looks about right for a weekly order.

With the weather we'd had and the obvious poor ice conditions........really?

1 hour ago, Frostynuts said:

No wonder they have to charge so much for those POS. They probably charged each guy for an extra engine, right off the bat. LOL

2200 hundred engines wouldn,t come cheap. Imagine how the owners feel while waiting for a replacement engine which will be delivered in May.

Even thou I,m not a doo fan, it,s very disappointing that their factory test riders don,t find faults with this new tech before they release it to the public. Hard to believe that they have actually done any real world trail or mountain riding with these engines.

As much as I like to trash talk, never one to kick another sledder when he or she is down. No excuse possible for even a first year sled to see that kind of engine failure rate and yes AC are equaly asswipes after what the 2012s put their owners through. The season is just too damm short for this kind of nonsense.

1 hour ago, Frostynuts said:

 

6 hours ago, odot1 said:

Yup , illegal!!!!  I was think the two wheel car carrier for some reason.  Too be fair I just had my tonsils ripped out, uvula cut out and nose rebuilt..  Morphine clouding everything!!  Without question absolutely illegal.  Traffic coppers dream right there!!!

Feel better soon. 

Too bad he didn't make better use of the roof racks.

Or launch out of Sno Voyagers club house and head that direction. Trails were absolute perfection on Friday.

^ What trails did you tour Smokin George?

Similar results with my 2011 GM  5.3 + 6 speed. I've done a fluid exchange on it twice when the fluids started to look darkish n shifting seems off. Each time, shifting returns to normal. As for plugs, done them twice as well. Was running fine before each change but it always runs just a little better afterwards. Not a lot of money to spend up front as compared to trans failure and or a plug seized or broken off in the head.

Good thing he'll be ok, tough lesson.

My '16 Pro s 800 runs similarly cool even under poor / icey conditions. Extended trip down the side of a road yesterday saw it in the mid to high 150s, back into the low 120s within a short distance once back on good snow.  Just for comparison, no doubt temp light would have come on requiring I stop at least twice on my former '11 F8.

1 hour ago, odot1 said:

Thanks for the appreciation!!

As for your question...there is some differing case law out there.  But what SEEMS to be acceptable in a number of courts is, in your example... a push or swipe to answer the phone.  Beyond 2 or 3 key presses seems to get a conviction.  In all honesty as an officer looking for this infraction, its only the obvious ones that get pulled over.  Many justices want to the officer to clearly see the device, and see an engagement of some sort with the driver..  i.e thumb/finger manipulation, lighted screens, mouth moving etc...  As for built in Bluetooth devices...for example my truck has the controls in the steering wheel.  One press can answer/hang up or activate voice dialing etc..  Your hands are no t on the device itself and its really considered no different than hitting your signal, turning on headlights etc...  Hope this answers.. if not, let me know what I missed.

Clears it up nicely, thanks.

1 hour ago, 02sled said:

Curious. How does your being out of province get you out of the red light ticket. From what I have read/heard the red light ticket is attached to the vehicle and not the driver. The premise being that regardless of who was driving, spouse, relative or friend the owner is responsible. 

Interested in the response / also thought it was attached to the vehicle regardless of who was at the wheel OR was the defense, you and your vehicle were out of province at the time which meant it flagged the wrong vehicle all together?

Here in Scarborough, all too common to get hung out to dry in the intersection when in position to make a left turn. More common vs not,  two or more vehicles to smoke the light after it's turned red. Always on my mind the red light camera is going to glitch n tag me for something that was 100 percent out of my control.

2 hours ago, odot1 said:

The law refers to the use of handheld devices not that it is specifically in your hand.  I've seen in court where people are convicted while their passenger was holding it but they (the driver) was actively reading it/looking at it.  If the phone is in a cradle and you are using speaker/Bluetooth their is no issue.  If you are pressing buttons on..i.e. texting then you can be charged and convicted. 

 

As for the truck driver... definitely not.  This is similar to the old story about the guy getting charged for leaving his trailer hitch in.  The media is misleading.  There is no specific "distracted driving charge".. Simply a couple of charges that address the issues that distract drivers.  I.E. the phone, in-car video viewed by the driver.  I suspect with the truck driver he was actually using his phone and charged with that but his defence was he was grabbing the smokes...  OR...its quite possible he was charged with smoking in the workplace under the smoke free act...  I've seen at least one, umm... intense officer do this\\\

Scenario, phone is secured in a cradle, you push a button to access phone book, select person to dial, hit send, is that still considered using a hand held device? Same question if you have to enter the actual phone number? If the answer is yes, how is that any different vs going through the same two or three finger actions if you had built in blue tooth through the vehicles factory media device?

Really appreciate your taking the time to reply to these kinda questions.

+1 on contact Stator Kev.

Best in the biz bar none.

Good looking ride.