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krom

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  1. 13 hours ago, AK440 said:

    I can’t help the fact you are illiterate. I repeatedly posted the answer you so desperately seek multiple times with different articles. There are even videos you could watch but are apparently so technologically incompetent  you can’t even figure out how to make a YouTube video play. 

    Even after all that crying, you still can't answer the question..

    :idiot::owned:

  2. 6 hours ago, Premium said:

    I have a video somewhere on my phone of the TEAM roller clutch that I removed and replaced on my 17 Turbo... with the spring out you can see clear as day that the clutch cover will contact the spider nut before full shift. This was on a clutch that was already replaced before I took delivery of the sled.

    I never had any cracks, but that makes sense given the nature of the issue. The guys that run wide open on lakes all day probably saw the most failures.

    You never want a clutch to shift until the sheaves touch.

    It wasn't just lake runners that had problems with cracking, it was more  the guys that actually rode. 

    The guys who really ride would crack them on 600s, lots of 800's and tons of turbo's.  I personally only saw turbos that had exploded a clutch.

  3. 19 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

    yes, he does.  9_9

    his kitchen countertop is probably worth more than the double wide trailer you and all your toothless cousins live in.

     

    10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

    to prove it I'd need a bit of information on the 2XW which you are unlikely to provide.  ;)

     

    4 hours ago, AK440 said:

    I have no idea what a 2XW is? 

    That proves you're a complete moron, with the reading comprehension of a first grader

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  4. 4 hours ago, AK440 said:

    Reading is really hard for you isn’t it? I’ve given you the answer multiple times and you refuse to read/watch the source. 
     

     

    I've asked you a simple question at least 5 times over a span of several months and you aren't capable of answering it.

    Not one single time have you been able to post the answer, despite your bullshit claims

    :idiot::owned:

  5. 1 hour ago, AK440 said:

    Simple question, explain why the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased so drastically and why global temperatures are increasing. 

    Global temps have fallen, and risen depending on the time frame you choose, and they will continue to rise and fall until the start of the next ice age.

    As for the "drastic change in CO2", what time frame? 
    What have you been told to think is "drastic"?

    CO2 levels change with temperature, so pick a time frame with temperatures that have cooled, and you'll get lower levels of CO2.

    Its been months and you still haven't been able to answer what percent of the atmosphere is co2

  6. Just now, AK440 said:

    You don’t even know what you are trying to argue. 

    Typical brain dead liberal, trying to accuse me of what you just did...

    :idiot::lol2:

    The video I posted was very simple to understand, it simply and obviously pointed out, that the temperature has changed considerably over the years, and depending on the time frame you choose you can find evidence to show the earth has warmed, or cooled.

    In your brilliance you countered it by trying to use a different time frame.  (one with far less precise data, than the already shit data you are trying to use)

     

    Here is another very simple video you won't be able to understand:

    https://www.facebook.com/reel/1386496632046216

  7. Strange that its only for catalyst sleds

    We've changed plenty of them over the years, try to find them during pdi by making sure the bolts are nice and tight.  The ones that break have a huge void in the casting.

    According to the parts book on country cat, the part number for the catalyst steering clamp is the same as they have used on pretty much every sled for years and years :dunno:

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  8. 1 hour ago, awful knawful said:

    Sxs don't roll over by themselves.

    It's all on the driver.

     

    Flopping a SXS on its side or lid is a normal part of operating it for more than a small amount of folks that use them for anything other than a golf cart.

    Nothing about flopping or flipping one is a "freak accident".

    Pretty odd stance trying to defend 13 years of people suffering one of the worst deaths imaginable because of terrible designs, after their lead safety guy was so disgusted by it that he had to leave the company

     

     

  9. 1 hour ago, mnstang said:

    That was hard to read.  Being burned to death I think is the worst way to go.

    So.e if these cases sound like when they roll over they just start dumping fuel out?  Is that part a malfunction on a portion of the machines or do they all do that by design?

    Yea, those where the first stories I came across, it didn't take much searching.  It's got to be the worst way to go

     

    its because of terrible design

  10. 9 hours ago, awful knawful said:

    But it was a freak accident.

    The shock broke and the bike rolled. The fire was caused from the rolling, nothing else.

     

    20 minutes ago, Tripleflipper said:

    Doesn't suit his agenda

    A sxs rolling isn't a freak accident, its a everyday occurrence and its been going on for a decade or more. Incase you didn't see this in the other thread...

    1

    But customers soon reported that plastic panels between the passengers and the engine were melting and smoking. At a meeting in 2011, the company’s head of product safety told executives that a recall was necessary after he reviewed “between eight and 15” reports of heat damage, according to his testimony in a 2017 wrongful-death lawsuit.

    “It was my heartfelt feeling and belief that the vehicle should be recalled,” the safety director, Kenneth d’Entremont, said in a deposition.

    Instead, Polaris issued a service bulletin instructing dealers to affix an aluminum sheet to damaged panels. Without a recall, the company was not required to inform customers or the Consumer Product Safety Commission of the fires. Mr. d’Entremont testified that he had been excluded from future safety meetings.

    Kenneth D’Entremont, a safety director for Polaris, left the company in 2012. “It was no longer possible for me to continue working there ethically,” he said.

    2

    11-year-old Keylee Latham. During a family visit with friends in Texas in July 2014, Keylee rode in a 2010 Polaris Ranger while tagging along on a trip to take trash to a dumpster. The vehicle tipped over, pinning her beneath it as the ROV began leaking gasoline. Then the ROV and Keylee caught fire.

    She was rescued after a neighbor used his truck to push the Ranger off her body

    Keylee suffered third- and fourth-degree burns over 60 percent of her body. Eventually part of her right leg and her left foot had to be amputated, according to the suit, which was settled out of court.

    The suit claimed Polaris knew there was a danger of gas leaking in a rollover and that it should have installed a valve or taken another preventive measure. It also claimed that in 2007 a Polaris fuel-systems design engineer asked the company to test devices that would prevent fuel spills if a vehicle tipped over

    3

    On July 4, 2016 Baylee was riding with a cousin in the back seat of a rented Polaris RZR 900, while her father and grandfather sat in the front. BJ Hoaldridge, Baylee’s father was turning the ATV, going about 5 mph, when it tipped on its side.

    Initially, he didn’t believe there was any issue. But then, flames started to spread. Everyone was able to get out immediately, except Baylee, who was trapped in her seat and engulfed in flames.

    “I took her under the arm and just did everything I could to hold her out of the flame, and then grandpa came and saved her, unhooked her seat belt,” BJ Hoaldridge said. “At night, I’ll never forget the screaming. Ever. Grandpa can’t either.”

    Baylee was rushed to the hospital at the University of Utah with third-degree burns to 65 percent of her body. The injuries were so severe they led to an infection, which forced doctors to remove her large intestine.

    Over the next four months, Baylee had 27 surgeries including skin grafts, surgical removal of infected tissue and other treatments.

    she passed away in November '16 after her life support was turned off

    4

    September 2016 in Utah. Two Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann were killed when their Polaris Ranger tipped over, sparking a fire.

    “A large and lethal amount of gasoline saturated the area around the occupants, who were restrained in the vehicle by seat belts, and a large fire ignited,” according to a suit filed in Minnesota last year against Polaris by the families of Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann.

    ‘Ranger was completely consumed’

    “Within a few seconds, the Ranger was completely consumed in extremely hot and high flames,” the suit said. It added that the women were burned to death before they could release their seat belt

    5

    But minutes into the first ride, with Steven Groves, 23, in the passenger seat, chaos erupted.

    “Steven yelled, ‘Fire!’” Mr. Bingham said. “All I saw was orange.”

    After struggling to unbuckle his harness, Mr. Bingham escaped with severe burns. Mr. Groves, however, was trapped as flames covered him. Not until his harness melted did he fall to the ground, his body still on fire. He died the next day.

    Mr. Bingham’s 2017 RZR, which caught fire in Idaho in May, had received the prescribed repair after the 2018 recall

    as of 2019 Polaris has settled at least three lawsuits related to fires in its side-by-sides, and at least 11 more lawsuits are pending

  11.  

    6 hours ago, Tripleflipper said:

    Like Poo RZR fire issue, Textron knew these were an issue. They knew this at the factory and now rather than fix the problem put a band aid on it.

    Kinda, but unlike poo, this hasn't been going on for a decade or more, and definitely hasn't immolated any people

    1

    But customers soon reported that plastic panels between the passengers and the engine were melting and smoking. At a meeting in 2011, the company’s head of product safety told executives that a recall was necessary after he reviewed “between eight and 15” reports of heat damage, according to his testimony in a 2017 wrongful-death lawsuit.

    “It was my heartfelt feeling and belief that the vehicle should be recalled,” the safety director, Kenneth d’Entremont, said in a deposition.

    Instead, Polaris issued a service bulletin instructing dealers to affix an aluminum sheet to damaged panels. Without a recall, the company was not required to inform customers or the Consumer Product Safety Commission of the fires. Mr. d’Entremont testified that he had been excluded from future safety meetings.

    Kenneth D’Entremont, a safety director for Polaris, left the company in 2012. “It was no longer possible for me to continue working there ethically,” he said.

    2

    11-year-old Keylee Latham. During a family visit with friends in Texas in July 2014, Keylee rode in a 2010 Polaris Ranger while tagging along on a trip to take trash to a dumpster. The vehicle tipped over, pinning her beneath it as the ROV began leaking gasoline. Then the ROV and Keylee caught fire.

    She was rescued after a neighbor used his truck to push the Ranger off her body

    Keylee suffered third- and fourth-degree burns over 60 percent of her body. Eventually part of her right leg and her left foot had to be amputated, according to the suit, which was settled out of court.

    The suit claimed Polaris knew there was a danger of gas leaking in a rollover and that it should have installed a valve or taken another preventive measure. It also claimed that in 2007 a Polaris fuel-systems design engineer asked the company to test devices that would prevent fuel spills if a vehicle tipped over

    3

    On July 4, 2016 Baylee was riding with a cousin in the back seat of a rented Polaris RZR 900, while her father and grandfather sat in the front. BJ Hoaldridge, Baylee’s father was turning the ATV, going about 5 mph, when it tipped on its side.

    Initially, he didn’t believe there was any issue. But then, flames started to spread. Everyone was able to get out immediately, except Baylee, who was trapped in her seat and engulfed in flames.

    “I took her under the arm and just did everything I could to hold her out of the flame, and then grandpa came and saved her, unhooked her seat belt,” BJ Hoaldridge said. “At night, I’ll never forget the screaming. Ever. Grandpa can’t either.”

    Baylee was rushed to the hospital at the University of Utah with third-degree burns to 65 percent of her body. The injuries were so severe they led to an infection, which forced doctors to remove her large intestine.

    Over the next four months, Baylee had 27 surgeries including skin grafts, surgical removal of infected tissue and other treatments.

    she passed away in November '16 after her life support was turned off

    4

    September 2016 in Utah. Two Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann were killed when their Polaris Ranger tipped over, sparking a fire.

    “A large and lethal amount of gasoline saturated the area around the occupants, who were restrained in the vehicle by seat belts, and a large fire ignited,” according to a suit filed in Minnesota last year against Polaris by the families of Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann.

    ‘Ranger was completely consumed’

    “Within a few seconds, the Ranger was completely consumed in extremely hot and high flames,” the suit said. It added that the women were burned to death before they could release their seat belt

    5

    But minutes into the first ride, with Steven Groves, 23, in the passenger seat, chaos erupted.

    “Steven yelled, ‘Fire!’” Mr. Bingham said. “All I saw was orange.”

    After struggling to unbuckle his harness, Mr. Bingham escaped with severe burns. Mr. Groves, however, was trapped as flames covered him. Not until his harness melted did he fall to the ground, his body still on fire. He died the next day.

    Mr. Bingham’s 2017 RZR, which caught fire in Idaho in May, had received the prescribed repair after the 2018 recall

    as of 2019 Polaris has settled at least three lawsuits related to fires in its side-by-sides, and at least 11 more lawsuits are pending

     

  12. sure it was..
    A joint venture that didn't have AC markings anyplace on it, used 0 legacy AC tuning components, and completely identical/parts interchange to the team clutches used by pre buy out textron, Deere, and others.

  13. 3 hours ago, AK440 said:

    Horrible way to die and a freak accident. What’s your solution, ban all SxS’s? Maybe include blow and go’s as standard equipment in every model? Eliminate the beds and cup holders so there is no room to pack around beer? Ohooo, how about make them electric so there is no hot exhaust? I guess they could follow the Cat path and just quit making them? 

    Problem is that it wasn't a "freak accident" 

    The fire issues were well known at the factory 

    Just design build and sell machines that don't catch on fire during normal use. 

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