Stoney

9 hours ago, Fozzy said:

Are loud exhausts really the cause of our trails being closed? I don't think so. Just by the law stating they are illegal and you can be ticketed is enough of a threat for most people not to have one. There are loud exhausts out there but not a lot and not enough to actually close trails.

Our biggest problems with trails closing is people not respecting the land. Not staying on the trail and the garage they leave or the BRP parts being left there. I had to throw in the last one being a Yami guy. 

I also think some landowners are just tired of having the trail on their property. When confronted by the club to why they don't want it...   it's just an excuse they give to have the club leave them alone.

Hey Fozzy, You happen to have a non-stock exhaust system on that sled of yours.....

I think you are correct on the other account as well though.

4 hours ago, Slow Joe said:

My brother is a farmer landowner with a well established trail running thru part of his land,and a sledder himself,we talked awhile back about this as he is getting feed up as well although he is not overly upset about the noise he does detest the two stroke yappy cans and that for the most part the rest sound like his tractor, his biggest gripe is pretty close to what Fozzy has stated broken belts tossed not stowed  other garbage and sleds leaving the marked trail is a biggy and wheelers and dirt bikes accessing the trail in the off season,Iam not condoning exhaust mods by no means just what we discussed.Joe  

People who own these lands are likely getting less and less tolerant as the years go buy (like most of us do), and it is their land, so they have the right too. Now take a piece of land that is just sold, I am sure most new owners of that land are way less likely to say yes to using my land vs. business as usual......what is in it for ME to let YOU use MY land, and then disrespect me & my land if I do say yes with loud exhaust, trespassing where you should not be, leaving your garbage, etc......

Plus just look around at the increased lack of respect for others in general or their land in this case. 

Heard plenty of aftermarket exhausts on the weekend, but I would guess only a couple of them were the extreme ones that echo though the bush.

Cannot say I saw much garbage though on the trails.

42 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

I picked up this Mr. Heater unit last summer.  ~$400 I think.  I believe it’s 50k BTU.  

My garage is currently 28x36, 8’ 5” walls with an upstairs that I’ve closed off for winter.  R-19 in the walls and ceiling and vapor barrier sealed tight.

 In about 20 minutes it can go from 10-20 degrees to ~65and sustain it easily.  I only run it when I need the garage warm.  The only moisture problems I am seeing so far is just excess from snow on vehicles and my sled.  Otherwise, it stays dry.

Same unit I have....the moisture you have is caused by what you brought in i.e. snow on cars. I think Irv was referring to moisture caused by the heater itself and what I was referencing, like when you run a salamander propane heater in a garage, everything gets caked in water, from the moisture in the gas though or the example of an RV, but that is just crappy insulation & no vapour barrier, unless you buy one the trailers rated for winter use, which I assume come with the extra protection.....I think Smokin george had one that was winter rated.

2 minutes ago, dirtybeacher said:

Not what you’re looking for, but if you want to set something up in the meantime, it’s a cheap way to do it.   4800w, 240vac 30a. They’re about 80$ new, I grabbed a couple at garage sales for under 10. My 1.5 garage is insulated, with insulated door. Works good for me.  

I used that before I installed the heater I have now, it worked to heat the garage up, the problem was the recovery rate, it took too long to reheat the garage after you opened the door, etc....but was far easier to hook up than the heater I have now!

10 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

My heater vents out plus, I put in additional venting.  But, I still have some problems when the cars and sled get loaded up with snow.  I don’t have enough venting to extract the moisture.  Going to add another high flow vent.  Prolly gonna rig up a “squirrel cage” of some sort for high flow.

What type of heater do you have? Sounds like similar to me, but propane vs. natural gas.

I do not have moisture issues, so I am curious. I do not have cars in the garage though, so maybe I am not introducing as much external moisture as you are.....just snow from my sled, when I actually ride that is.....

I do run a fan in the garage when heater is on, most of the time....and when I do get puddles of water from melting snow, I usually brush it outside. I also have mine on 24/7, dropped down at night to 10 and other times when I am home, around 15, depending if I or the kids are doing stuff or playing in the garage.

In floor heat is the ticket if it was a new build, dries up all the water from the floor up.

17 minutes ago, 04nightfire said:

Changed it just for you 

You are the best, Aaron!

My garage is well insulated and vapour barrier.

43 minutes ago, irv said:

With you guys running some heavy duty type heaters, do you ever encounter condensation/humidity problems?  

Exhausted / vented outside for mine, so zero moisture issues.

Electric heaters should have zero moisture issues.

1 minute ago, 04nightfire said:

Keep telling myself that

LOL....one of the nice things now that I am not as pumped about riding as I used to be, the roller coaster weather does not bug me as much 

1 hour ago, 04nightfire said:

Rain in the forecast for sunday and monday

Just a bit to add some moisture to the snow that will come this week....side effect of snow falling when it is cold, it has no moisture!

It is for the best, right......

1 hour ago, 04nightfire said:

It's heavenly compared to my 17 assault

For some reason I did not think your 900T came with that.

About time to update you avatar perhaps......

Mr Heater gas heater is what I have and use.

Considered the radiant gas heater as well, but it was I think double at the time and did not see many benefits to it at the time.

It is very nice having a heated garage. 

4 hours ago, smokin george said:

Dale knows he has an open invite and ample parking

Looks great, George!

37 minutes ago, irv said:

Looking good, George! I am hoping to hear/see trails opening in Port Perry soon! 

Irv,

You have a trailer, use it.....Kinmount is not far and if you are real nice,  you might get a VIP parking spot!

If an aftermarket exhaust does in fact meet the same db level, have the manufacture acquire the stamp of approval stating it is accepted.....I am sure a cost associated with the process that most do not want to bare or need to the way things are right now.

Heard some obnoxious sleds today with exhaust systems......4-strokes is a low level drone, that I would think gets annoying over time, than the bark of the 2-stroke that echo's through the bush....

3 hours ago, smokin george said:

Once I get motivated I'll get out there and clear the deck

Just go for a ride instead.

Similar route for me yesterday,  trail was bad until you got past minden.  Saw that car racing as well, pretty neat.

25 minutes ago, Zooman said:

5 of us also rode out of kinmount up Whitney for lunch 

Where did you end up parking in Kinmount and how was the B on your return trip?

When I pulled out in the afternoon, the lot I parked at was now full of rigs and Monck road was now also full of rigs.

3 hours ago, smokin george said:

We cancelled going to Que ( too fkn cold) and got out on Fri for a ride. We trailered to Gooderham ( 25 min from here) and rode north. The trails were thin in spots and during one of our stops buddies wife says they have to be home by 6pm. Fkn hammer down lol then we get home and find out she had the wrong day. All in all it was a good day and we only managed 145kms which would've been twice that without the fkup

Rode your area yesterday, I think (Kinmount).....could use more snow for sure, but not bad all in all.

Seems to be a rock hard ice base in most area's,  so just add more snow!

27 minutes ago, Poncho said:

The dude from Manitoba knows shit.......-25 last weekend...fingers froze even with the FXR Recons and deflectors and handlebar heat. Recons are great if you heat the back of your hand.  Nothing in the palm or fingers....don’t buy them, Winterpeg dude was so wrong...I guess it’s just me...mits next

Maybe it is time for that extra tall windshield.....

I do not I could stand riding with mitts, I just cannot see having the same control. I have been thinking about getting those Doo muffs, if I actually get out this year and I find my hands not warm, I might break down. I have a really good pair of Klim gloves too that use to work great, but ever since my hands got too cold that one year in QC, my hands just are not the same when it comes to the cold.

25 minutes ago, smokin george said:

They're definately not playing great hockey. Could be something going on in the locker room

All they have to do is play some stinkin hockey a few days a week for just over half the year, what could possibly get into their heads that can make the wheels fall off 

I am sure whatever it is, will work it self out and we will maybe see one round of playoff hockey with the leafs....maybe 2 rounds if we are real lucky! 

Have the wheels fallen off, injuries caught up or something else???

26 minutes ago, irv said:

I don't have LED's on my trailer or any vehicle either but I remember this being discussed either here or another forum before. I assume it isn't a big problem but just thought I'd mention it for those that are considering them for their trailers or vehicles? Tail Lights/brake lights, like it mentions are the most prone to this. https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/threads/hid-led-head-lamps-in-snow.302254/ 

"Keep in mind that certain conditions will cause snow and ice to accumulate on pretty much any type of headlight, even traditional incandescent bulbs. LED lights are just more susceptible to it because they run cooler than conventional bulbs".

"But one major drawback that both traffic lights and vehicles have experienced with LEDs is their lack of produced heat. While the LED drivers mounted onto vehicle headlamps can produce enough heat that they require cooling fans, little of this energy gets to the lens where it can help to melt snow and ice. Fortunately, the air flow over these lamps helps to keep things clear in the winter. The same certainly cannot be said for tail lamps. Take a look at vehicles ahead of you while driving on snow-covered roads when their tires are kicking up a suitable amount of the white stuff. If those drivers are intelligent enough to have on all of their exterior lights, those vehicles equipped with incandescent bulbs will be showing you a bright clear red lens (unless they’re salt covered), while most of the LED type will be white with snow and almost utterly useless"

 

There have been lots of discussion in the last few years regarding LED lights and not having the heat of your traditional lights, but look around at the cars on road now a days, there are a lot more LED lights being used on a lot more cars that do not seem to have the issue.....perhaps a different type of lens is used to decrease snow and such from sticking....not too sure.

The lights on my trailer that seem to have the biggest issue with getting caked in the road sleet are the front corner markers, that are not the LED lights, but that is it.

I have some led on my Triton trailer,  can't recall any issues with them.

I do not think most realize the number of small snow covered bridges that you cross on sled...sure there are the more obvious ones, but there are a lot of small ones, not sure where a line is drawn though on what rules on followed based on what size of bridge.