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Just now, Momorider said:

What the fuck is exchange rate have to do with milk produced and sold locally you stupid ignoramus FUCK YOU ARE AN IDIOT

The entire dairy dispute is about the US farmers not having access to the Canadian market you dumbest fuck on the plant, Wilbur Ross just said so 30 minutes ago you brain dad stupid POS 

Go away momo your stupidity might be contagious 

Just now, Highmark said:

Great discussion.    I'll still error on taking most subsidies away and letting the markets work themselves out.   

Hey who knows what the real right answer is. For the most part everyone has an opinion of what works and what don't. But I do agree Canadas lumber industry is definitely not fair trade. The Government says they don't subsidize the lumber industry but yet they practically give crown land to the Irvings to cut and produce into lumber. That's a sneaky way of cheating free trade 

3 minutes ago, Momorider said:

The most important thing to remember is that Lobster Fucking is a moron of the highest order

Highmark and I are having an intelligent conversation without badmouthing each other. 2 things you know nothing about ya bullfucking retard  

3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Article is a little old but its saying Canadian milk is twice as expensive.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/got-milk-canadian-shoppers-get-it-at-us-costco-2012-08-16

 

It's not as big of a difference now but still it's quite a bit more here. Some of that has to do with the exchange rate and overall cost of living here is more for everything. Wages are higher on average although that money don't really give you any more purchasing power because it's not worth as much. 

Just now, Highmark said:

No doubt.   Nobody knows that more than people from Iowa.  Farm just 1/2 mile down the road milks cows.   Never ending job.  That dude takes a break from work to find some other work to do.  

365 day a year job. On call 24-7 you might as well say. 

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Glad its working.   I wouldn't say better than America with 25-50% higher prices.   Yes taxpayers pay for subsidies so it might come out even in the end however i'd just prefer the free market take care of itself.  Too many other benefits not too.    

Take in the exchange rate in the dollar and it's not as big of a difference as you would think.

Just now, Highmark said:

Glad its working.   I wouldn't say better than America with 25-50% higher prices.   Yes taxpayers pay for subsidies so it might come out even in the end however i'd just prefer the free market take care of itself.  Too many other benefits not too.    

Im just saying how it works here. It's the one buisness in farming is doing well. Consumers pay more no doubt but the farms are at least profitable. Farming is a huge buisness in any country and we all know what happens when any big buisness fails   Government steps in and bails them out at taxpayers expense. 

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

25-50% higher than the us is Comparable.  

https://albertamilk.com/ask-dairy-farmer/why-is-milk-so-expensive/

Prices for Canadian dairy products are comparable to prices in other countries.

The price of milk in stores varies from region to region and store to store as we do not set the price of milk; retailers do. It cost between $1.25-1.50 per litre in Canada, while in the US, consumers pay about $1.00 a litre, in China $1.70, in Australia $1.00 to $1.55, in New Zealand $1.65. (Source: AC Nielsen, 2011)

Take in the difference in the dollar and they are pretty much the same. 

Just now, Highmark said:

Again who sets that price?  I can't see how you can tell someone you can only produce so much then have free market setting prices.   

It's a complicated system for sure. It depends on butterfat content and a lot of other things. Things momo has no idea about but yaps like the resident retard he is lol. Here is a link that might help explain it better  

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/1175334-milk-for-all-it’s-worth-how-prices-are-set

1 minute ago, Momorider said:

Yup I have unlike you, you fucking moron

You are a terrible liar. Funny thing is you do it so much you should be much better at it. 

Just now, Highmark said:

Where is the incentive to cut costs?   Where is the incentive to grow and produce more jobs?  

The price of milk is high enough to make a decent profit. To grow the buisness they buy more quota from when another farmer sells out.its been working very well in Canada for years 

Just now, Momorider said:

YAh just like Lobster fucker insane

 

Have you even stepped foot on a Dairy farm in your life? 

Just now, Highmark said:

I think its hilarious that Canada would make farmers throw milk and eggs AWAY if they haven't purchased enough quota.   Thanks completely fucking retarded.  

Thing is it hardly ever happens because they know what they can produce and keep track of everything to a T. 

4 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Momo arrives, shortly after:

 

 

momo is the wreck. 

Just now, Highmark said:

What else should the govt control the supply and demand of?   Oil?  Electricity? Computers? Beer?

Hey people are always yapping about farmers and how they are the backbone of the Country, I'm sick of hearing it to. But you can bet if the farmers in any country start to fail the Government of that country will step in and bail them out. At least this way it keeps the taxpayer out of it. 

This whole thread is about what's fair for the American and Canadian farmer and the profits or lack of that they make. It is not about the consumer. momo went out in left field as always like a moron. 

Just now, Highmark said:

Actually you said.

Prices are much better when supply is not higher than demand. 

I can only assume you meant prices are better for the farmer.  

That's exactly what I meant. After all it's the farmers we are talking about here not the consumer. Only momo is to stupid to understand that. 

1 minute ago, Momorider said:

That is not what you posted you stupidest fuck on the fucking planet

That's exactly what I said stupid. Prices are better if you aren't producing more than you can sell. Read it again sloooooowwwwlllllyyyyy stupid. 

3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Damn, can't say I agree with that at all.  If you're better at producing than me you have to pay me for it.  FUBAR..  

It works great because there is never more supply than demand. Farmers are their own worst enemy sometimes when it comes to production. Perfect example here is potatoes. They don't make enough money because the price is to low because of overproduction. What do the farmers do? Grow more to try to make more money. 

1 minute ago, Momorider said:

Are you fucking retarded. Supply and demand is what dictates prices. If everyone is producing more than they can sell then the price of that product falls. If you are to stupid to see that then you have never been in buisness of any kind 

Bottom line is people are greedy. Without quotas they overproduce and in turn it drives prices down. And what does the farmer do? Produce more 

12 minutes ago, Highmark said:

The market works itself out.  Quota systems in the US AG system are taxpayers paying for them not to produce which is bullshit.  Milk is not like commercial fishing where the resource is limited and requires quotas.  

Here if you milk 50 cows and you want to milk more you buy quota from another farmer. Works well and keeps farmers in buisness. Eggs here are done in a similar way and the farmers do well. Do the same thing in the US and it would benefit the farmers in the same way. No taxpayer money involved here. Here if a farmer overproduced milk them it is disposed of. Farmer don't get paid for it. 

18 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Free but FAIR trade.   

Stop producing more milk than you can sell. Pretty simple. I agree the lumber deal sucks because the Government leases woodland to the Irvings for nothing.  But the milk thing is the US problem. It's like that in anything if you overproduced more than you can sell. Quota system fixes that. 

250 good paying jobs I'm sure. Hate to see that happen