ViperGTS/Z1

2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

 doesnt it suck when you were so sure  and then it hits you ..........just like I said about 8 pages back 

Yup

What can I tell ya.....slow learner

Still not totally sold....lol

19 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

I see where you could think that, and that was the crux of the original debate. But that string in your example would also be longer with a longer track.

However, since the point of contact is linear and not rotational, the circumference of the track has no effect like a taller tire would. 

18 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

 

The sled only moves the length of the inner diameter 

14 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

put 1 foot studs on the track and the distance traveled in one revolution wouldn’t change  

Ok....I'm struggling with this a little bit but the inner diameter and linear movement does make sense.

 I'd almost have to see it in action to fully believe it.

Call the bet off 550....

27 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

If that were true, track length would have an effect on drive ratio, but it doesn't.

25 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

 

100% WRONG.  When talking about 1 or 10 or 100 rotations of the drive axle, Lug Height doesn't change the the distance traveled, neither does the length of the track.  The track could be 100 miles long and 10 spins of the drive axle will only move the track 10 times the circumference of the drive axle.  Lug Height and track length have no bearing.  

I think we are discussing 2 different things.....I fully agree that the ratio would remain constant. 

But if you suspended a sled in the air and wrapped a string completely around the same length track with one having 1 inch lugs and another with 3 inch lugs. ......it's obvious the 3inch lug would require a longer string.

If you laid those strings side.by side the 3 inch lug string would be longer.....and that equals distance. The inside diameter of the track is equal but the longer lugs make the outside diameter larger. So 1 full rotation of these 2 TRACKS not the clutch or cogs would yeild a difference in distance.

I thought that is what the original bet was about.

Once again..makes no difference if its spinning around an axle or spinning around cogs and slide rails. ......its the diameter that will decide the distance traveled.

Sure if you cut the track or tire and laid it level it would be the same distance but these are round turning objects and diameter dictates

Good.....hope it goes down another 10k points.......I'm locked and loaded sitting on the sidelines......traders dream......tank baby tank.

Patience

3 hours ago, Polaris 550 said:

OK, let's keep it simple as we can. Do you agree with it, how I worded it? You do agree that if the machine moves further with bigger lugs, that the FINAL DRIVE RATIO is different, right?           In other words, if one rotation of the track with longer/shorter lugs moves the sled a different amount, the FINAL DRIVE RATIO is altered. OK? 

You got this 550!

Congrats....just make sure  its a full rotation of the track and not the driveshaft.......larger diameter track will travel further....its just basic physics.

 A lot of moronic putz's on this site.

If you need any help with some of the attorney's  fee's....I can probably help until you give me the 500 when you win.

17 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Think about final drive not including the tires on a car or the track of a snowmobile.  What happens then?

Neal

Rpms and or acceleration changes.

Ok...since you dont understand the wheel or coin concept.....imagine 2 rubberbands....one being slightly larger in circular diameter than the other one.

 Now use a sharpie and mark each band.

 Now roll them on your desk and mark the distance from 1 full rotation. You will clearly see the larger diameter band has traveled further.

Thank me now.....no need to go to expense of a professional. 

Larger diameter=greater distance.

You guys aint too bright.

18 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

 

An innocent man should have zero concerns with a talk, note I said an innocent man and not some proven liar.

 

 

 

 

BS.....A "talk" with Trump has perjury trap written all over it. Every attorney in the world recommended against it.

Look what happened to Flynn as they told him they just wanted a few informal questions with no need for an attorney. 

Meanwhile Hillary had like 9 lawyers present with her when questioned. 

Trump be crazy to talk to Muellers setup trap...they are after him any frivolous means possible. 

Just now, f7ben said:

A track is not a wheel you fucking moron. Sweet fuck I cant believe theres two of you

Lol.....

K....waste your money. Its a circle with 1 rotation the same as it would be as a wheel.

8 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Yup...you're right. Let's bet on it

If you take a dime and the slightly larger in diameter penny and roll them on a flat surface, the penny would travel just slightly more in 1 full rotation.  Its the same concept with a larger diameter long lug track.

The longer lugs actually make the track longer...at least on the outside diameter.

Dude....you're gonna lose. DONT BET 550 

1 minute ago, JEFF said:

So you’re saying you agree that per one turn of the jackshaft, a longer track lug will make the snowmobile move further than a shorter lug? 

To be perfectly clear?

No...that always remains constant...any difference in actual diameter will provide further travel....1 full track rotation of a longer lug larger diameter  track will travel further than the shorter diameter short lug.

Simple really.

1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said:

 Here it is AGAIN, you morphodite!!! 

Ok....I will expect my $100.

Congrats

No.....1 full rotation of Track.

550 wins

16 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Neal

If you were to run a string around the outside diameter of a short lug vs a long lug.....you would use more string on the long  lug.  Settled

20 minutes ago, f7ben said:

 

You want in on the bet?

Nah......too many technicalities and uncertainties of where the measurements will be coming from.

 I'll stick to the Trump bet if you're so sure he would have been beaten by anyone other than Hillary, you should have no problem betting he wont win if he is actually in the running for a 2nd term.

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

Nope....sorry. you're fucking dumb

20 minutes ago, f7ben said:

It's not rotating around a single axis. It's a track not a tire. Please tell me you arent as dumb as you look right now

Ok..... bring it to the professionals then depends where you're measuring from....1 rotation from gear you'll win....1 full rotation of track you'll lose

Just now, f7ben said:

It's not a fucking tire you retard. Sweet fuck....go back to 3rd grade

So a 3inch unflexed lug will have same circumference as a 1 inch?

28 minutes ago, f7ben said:

No...it wouldnt. Fuck sake another retard

A larger circumference will cover more ground per revolution....just like when i swap out 18 inch tires for double duces or vice versa  on my slade.....have to get the speedo recalibrated.  

43 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said:

" All other factors being equal, does lug height affect the FINAL DRIVE RATIO on a snowmobile, on a hypothetical, flat hard plane? " 

 

 

 

I'm waitin'.  

I beleive final drive ratio remains constant.......however final gear ratio would change. ...that's what you should be betting on.

2 hours ago, Zambroski said:

Wait til the dems actually take the house.  Whew....I hope the market is making their moves for that now...if not, the Dems would most assuredly love to shove our economy off a cliff to blame Trump and try and take the Presidency back in 2020.  They are concerned for the American citizens in that way.  A really good people!  Meh...no matter.  I'm ready to buy up houses whole sale on the courthouse steps and use the bootlicking retards to toss you half-witted liberals that lost their jobs out on the street.  I guess that makes me a bad person tho ...but wishing and hoping for another economic abyss because you lost is GOOD!  

 

Pulled much of my money out of the market right around the midterms....think I even made a post about it....seen this coming a mile away and avoided what would have amounted to a huge loss. Still up nicely for the year but staying at cash for the foreseeable future.

 Should be incredible buying ops down the road......PATIENCE

3 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Hey @Snoslinger did you read the NPR article at the link above?  How does that make you feel?  

Pffft.....Slinger just briefly skims and dismisses articles that aren't written by CNN

7 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Kill yourself

Lmao....thanks been waiting for that from you my little Gentle Ben.

My preferred method of dying below