f7ben

Just now, Steve753 said:

Either way it wouldn't be the same. Im just going by the link you posted. The piston geometry change to be normalized proves you're wrong in itself.

No , the piston change proves skidoo intended to eventually charge the engine and not just normalize it which is what they ended up doing. 

2 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

The compression ratio  is 12:5:1 on both turbo and non turbo. A turbo normalized motor would be less. In the end you saying just adding boost is false. 

That is backwards you stupid fuck , the normalized engine would retain higher CR typically because it isn’t exceeding rated hp. You’re dumb as a fucking stump , perfect little cop  

33 minutes ago, HSR said:

I'm sure everyone here thinks the electrician from Minnesota wiring light bulbs that he bought from Snowrider is the real expert.

Not the guy that owns his own speed shop and builds custom made pro stock and outlaw class engines.

Yup, you got us here 

Poor queef….BUT TOMMCAT SAYS DERR

You got owned because you’re dumb as fuck , that all there is to it 

2 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

So you dont know the difference between the 2 things. If you read the whole link you provided,  it tells you the differences in the engines. Had it been normalized it would have had a lower compression ratio. Which it does not.

You have that backwards you stupid cocksucker  normalized largely retains the stick motors but not always. The design pressure is the majority of the difference. Man are you fucking stupid 

23 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

@f7ben

No idea , don’t care. Skidoo added no power with their first design. It was normalized , not charged. 

13 minutes ago, HSR said:

I asked Tommcat and he said I'm right and you're wrong.

Please quit acting like you're his intellectual superior when it comes to sleds. Nobody here thinks you are or ever will be.

The more you call him down, the stupider you look. He actually builds sleds and owns a dyno. You run your mouth and blow sleds up.  Big difference there Chumley.

Not only do you mimic FrankieJames's "killyourself" schtick now your mimicing his level of sled knowledge.

Nice work.

 Tommcat …what a dumbfuck retard. I don’t need to ask anyone. I can read simple definitions. You’re a fucking moron with zero experience and no fundamental understanding of the discussion. 
 

I ASKED TOMMCAT DERRRR

TOU HAVE TO CHANGE CLUTCHING HERRR DERRRRR

7 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

You just owned yourself right there with that statement. 

How is that stupid Steve  holy fuck I can’t wait 

9 minutes ago, HSR said:

Even though many disagree with you, it's only me you are concerned about.

Do you have a crush on me or something??

Like a HS girl who says her crush is ugly and stupid

Many = you and the retard known as awful knawful. How did this argument work out for you with people who aren’t complete fucking morons??? 

10 minutes ago, HSR said:

It made more SAE hp than its N/A twin at sea level. Look it up.

No , it didn’t in 2020. Sorry retard. In 2021 they upped the boost to compete with Polaris. 

17 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

I posted days ago that we were arguing semantics. Jesus fucking Christ. 

So why are you still arguing? All I ever said was the skidoo was turbo normalized not turbocharged by design definition. Then I had retarded dumbfuck hsr claim that was wrong and throw a bleeding pussy fit over it.

Dumbfuck retard HSR 🤡 =  

Damn , an entire paper written by professionals manufacturing systems that discusses the differences between TURBOCHARGING and TURBONORMALIZING 

TWO VERY DISTINCT DESIGNS 

https://taturbo.com/tnvtc.html

34 minutes ago, HSR said:

I've asked you to back up your claims/definitions from the beginning of this topic and you have yet to do so. You just babble derp and shit.

Just stop making a fool of yourself here OK. You aren't convincing anyone and are too much of a pussy to back up your claims.

poor crying queefing HSR , just dumb as fuck and owned to the max 

11 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Dude, I never said that the doo wasn’t built as a normalized turbo system. If you scroll back, I pointed out that both boost power through the same method. More oxygen, more fuel. 

We don’t need an explanation of how IC engines work. The entire argument is based around semantics. 
 

The skidoo for 2020 is turbo normalized , not turbo charged. The end

33 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Once you answer my question correctly, you’ll have your answer. 

Ah no , you’re being a fucking retard 

I asked you to define turbo normalized. Should be simple. 
 

Once you do you’ll have your answer as to whether the skidoo was normalized or charged. 

4 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

An altitude power management system that requires a turbocharger which is therefore ....

Nope 

8 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

You never answered. 

I asked the first question and you answered it with another question, 

1 hour ago, EvilBird said:

Imagine bolting a turbo on your Car and not making any boost unless above sea level 

That’s never been done , literally only airplanes and skidoo  

1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Why does a normalized turbo set up make more measurable power at 8k ft than a non-turbo motor of the same configuration at the same altitude, temp, baro, yada, yada, yada? 

You’re close , what is turbo normalized? Just define it for me….

7 hours ago, Deephaven said:

Puts a turbocharger on a vehicle, but it's not turbocharged.  

What is turbo normalized ?

3 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Perhaps you should go ask your mechanic.

I’ve installed several turbo systems on sleds , I don’t need to ask anyone. You on the other hand likely aren’t capable of expounding on “put this on car ferrrderrr”

8 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

So if you put this on a car, what have you done to the car?

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-260050?srsltid=AfmBOooHNHqwgwCIXfPdUaXJl-X3X_hK1hfobSFQWoB3DrqbQsgTAzgP7qM

 

You’ll have to be a bit more specific than “put this on the car herrr derrr”

9 minutes ago, Rod said:

Lies 

Yah he just making shit up now I assume. 

1 minute ago, HSR said:

Yah except the only person on your side is retarded awful lol 

1 hour ago, HSR said:

OK then show where it says that turbocharged is defined by

Making more than SAE certified hp at sea level   OR

Turbocharged has a specific definition and that means it makes a pressure above 1 atmosphere.

Please 

 

 

 

If an engine is built for the Pikes Peak race and dyno tuned for the 5000ft starting line (uncorrected hp) and then they add a turbo to maintain power to the 14,000 ft starting line are they turbocharged? That is what they call that class, weird, you should call them.

They DGAF about sea level, ever.

 

Also IIRC the aftermarket dyno's found the turbo actually made a few more "corrected hp" than the n/a versions 

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