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5 hours ago, Highmark said: Man I'm getting close to throwing a huge chunk of money in Tesla and laughing my ass off at you in a few years. It will go down a bit more first then in 3-5 years hit $500/share.
THIS IS HOW TESLA WILL DIE:
It’s fair to say that Tesla isn’t doing so well. Thanks to an ageing lineup and a ket-fuelled, government-destroying, Nazi-saluting CEO, Tesla sales are plummeting across the entire globe. Their revolutionary 4680 battery has failed to materialise and is now obsolete. Their Cybertruck is such a sales flop that they are already pulling its manufacturing capacity. Thanks to Musk’s dogmatic “vision only” approach to self-driving, Tesla FSD is far from being an industry leader and miles away from being functionally safe. As a result, Tesla’s Cybercab and self-driving revolution is now all but confirmed as vapourware. Everything that once made Tesla one of the highest-valued companies is falling apart. It looks like Tesla is spiralling towards death. But can such a giant really die? Oh yes, and this is how.
Let’s start with the reality of Tesla.
In 2024, Tesla’s annual net income was only $12.6 billion (though some sources put it as low as $7 billion). The vast majority of this was from their car sales. However, as of the time of writing, Tesla is valued at $852.43 billion! That means its P/E ratio (a ratio of company value to its net income, used to determine if the company is over or undervalued) is a staggering 67.65!
Let’s compare that to Toyota. They are far larger than Tesla and have far more impactful upcoming EV and self-driving technology than Tesla. Last financial year, their net income was a massive $29 billion! However, they have a much more realistic value of $243.56 billion, giving them a P/E ratio of 8.40, which is close to the average for the automotive world.
By comparison, Tesla’s value makes no sense. It offers nothing that Toyota doesn’t also offer. The only reason Tesla is so stupidly valuable is because it is treated as a speculative meme stock.
But, as we have seen in recent weeks, the reality of Tesla’s sales slipping cuts through this speculation and causes mass stock sell-offs. This, in turn, diminishes its ability to be seen as a speculative stock and forces many investors to reevaluate their position based on reality.
So, how much would Tesla be worth if it was valued realistically by the end of 2025?
Currently, its sales are down 45% in the EU and 49% in China, and these numbers are predicted to fall even further. So, let’s be generous and say that over the course of this year, Tesla’s sales and net income will fall by 45%. Let’s also be generous and say that it is valued at the same P/E ratio as Toyota, even though Toyota is larger, has a bigger cash surplus, better upcoming technology, a stronger market share, etc.
This would give Tesla a net income of $6.93 billion and a total valuation of $55.44 billion. That is just 6% of what Tesla is worth at the time of writing, and it has already lost over a third of its value over the past few months. This is not some hypothetical pessimistic projection; it is a realistic valuation based on optimistic numbers for Tesla.
This valuation would be catastrophic for any investors, but it also would be a death knell for Tesla itself.
You see, Tesla’s insane valuation over the past few years has enabled the company to take on a ridiculous amount of debt.
As of writing, Tesla has at least $48.39 billion in debt.
However, Musk has also used his Tesla stock as collateral for SpaceX, Twitter, and Tesla loans. Before he bought Twitter, over half of his shares were collateralised; now, that figure is far, far higher. Again, let’s be generous and assume only 70% of his 12.8% stake in Tesla is collateralised in this way, with a third of these loans for Tesla. That would mean Musk has $71.68 billion in personal loans, with $23.89 billion for Tesla.
These loans aren’t accounted towards the company’s liabilities, as they are technically part of the debt owner’s — in this case, Musk’s — personal liabilities.
In other words, Tesla actually has $72.28 billion in debt. That is more than the company is realistically worth!
And it gets worse. If a collateralised stock loses too much of its value, the lender can issue a “margin call” and recall the loan. After all, the security for the loan no longer exists. This would happen if Tesla lost 94% of its value, and Musk would have to rustle up all that $71.68 billion debt.
But how can he pay for that? Twitter is already in negative equity, in that it owes more than it is worth. He could sell his SpaceX shares, valued at roughly $147 billion, but SpaceX isn’t doing so well either, with Starlink being far from breaking even and Starship being a total mess. Not to mention that many of these shares are likely collateralised too. On top of all that, if Musk sold a considerable stake in SpaceX, its value would plummet. It’s not guaranteed Musk can pull enough equity out of SpaceX to pay for all of this. It goes without saying that if Tesla were valued properly, it would also be in negative equity.
Musk would have no way of paying for any of this. He would either need to be bailed out by a private investor or let the banks liquidate the assets of these companies. After his bullshitery in the White House and apparent ineptitude at running his companies, do you really think a private investor would want to bail out this mess?
This is how Tesla and Musk’s entire empire dies.
Firstly, Tesla sales dramatically drop globally, tanking the stock price.
Then, one of three options occurs: Tesla fails to deliver the Cybercab, Tesla delivers a Cybercab that is wildly dangerous, or a superior competitor beats Tesla to the market, causing the speculative value of Tesla to disappear.
After that, Tesla’s value plummets to a realistic level, roughly 94% lower than it is today, putting Tesla into negative equity.
Musk’s collateralised loans are called, as lenders worry that their billions of dollars are at stake.
Musk can’t pay, and private investors won’t raise enough to bail him out.
The banks force liquidation of all of Musk’s companies, including Tesla.
How realistic is this prediction? It’s hard to say. In our modern, unreal economy, Musk’s collateralised loans might not be called if Tesla lost that much value. Moreover, some investors see Musk as a point of control, not a point of profit, so they are happy to back him even if it loses them huge piles of money. The investors might not want to force a liquidation, as they will only get a fraction of their money back. Heck, Trump might even step in and bail out Musk as his cars and rockets are “vital to America.” But, even if these factors managed to prevent the total failure of Tesla, the company would have still died. The hope, optimism, and hype it once thrived on will be gone, and because Musk can’t make billions from Tesla speculation, he will lose interest and let the company rot.
Either way, this shows that Musk isn’t really the wealthiest man on the planet. A single dose of optimistic reality and his entire empire comes crumbling down. The emperor has no clothes. Do you see why he is distracting you? Why he looks so frantic? Musk is terrified of reality because it means the end for him.
- by Will Lockett on Medium
His article and social media links are in the comments.
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1 hour ago, Skidooski said: You are hands down the biggest faggot on this forum and that’s saying something considering the company here
Keep whacking off while Trump and Elon Fuck your country Cuck.
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2 hours ago, spin_dry said: MPGA. It really is the sexual assault party with Trump and Gaetz leading the pack.
Is there any doubt Trump ever stopped at a firm no after watching the fat cunt still talk about Canada being the 51st state?
90% of Canadians say no and 60% of Americans don’t like the idea either but the rapist in chief won’t take no for an answer.
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9 hours ago, Snake said: How are your American English classes coming along?
It’d require an ABI to drop to the level of you semi literate cucks.
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4 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Tesla shares fell early Thursday after Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick used a TV appearance to urge Americans to buy stock in Elon Musk's car company.
Why it matters: Cabinet secretaries don't typically recommend individual stocks, much less those linked to the president's closest adviser.
His recommendation was potentially overshadowed, though, by one of Tesla's most fervent defenders on Wall Street calling the company's situation a "crisis."
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/20/tesla-musk-lutnick
Trump and Nutlick think you should buy one, and the stock... and two pair of his clown shoes.
If Biden or Obama started running one company car shows at the White House or telling people what stocks to buy, the excited right would have been talking impeachment.
But Tesla will need all the help they can get. With the byd 1,000volt battery system and this……
Chinese battery scientists used a special technique to extract 99.99% of the lithium, 97% of the nickel, 92% of the cobalt and 91% of the manganese from a used battery.
it obvious that Trump’s backward Merca is fucked.
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5 hours ago, Skidooski said: My gawd are you a whiny bitch who tries way too hard
Cuck. You sit there and watch while Trump fucks your country.
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9 hours ago, Highmark said: 🤣
When Justin Trudeau Said He Admi...
When Justin Trudeau Said He Admired China’s 'Basic Dictat...
“There is a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime..."You need to see the whole Interview but you won’t.
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23 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: I actually like many of Trump's policys but not all of them..
You cucks are going to be busy learning Korean and Russian.
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1 hour ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: You're just a fuckin idiot to believe Musk was giving a retarded Hitler salute and is somehow pro-Hitler.
He is simply working with Trump to expose the fraud and wasteful spending and trying to actually save America from going bankrupt..... That is his biggest concern.
And you fukin freaks have now turned against him for being associated with Trump and are selling your EV's . What the hell happened to climate change..?.... All of a sudden it ended?.... You freaks are nothing but hypocrites.
Rumors are act blue may be behind much of the violence and burning of the dealerships. This is all paid for by the party of tolerance as their gravy train of corruption is being exposed and coming to an end....... And I'm loving every second of it. There is absolutely no sane reason for being against musk for doing this.
That’s what he’s telling you. Remember when he claimed to find 8 billion in waste and it turned out to be less than Trump spends on golfing?
or how about this little gem.
Here’s a few more for you ya gullible cuck.
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2 hours ago, airflite1 said: That's from a different Video just look at her clothes, I suppose your media of choice is hiding the one from the speech where she's just snapping out your so called salute. Please, Please don't start taking your Meds, the entertainment value will go way down on this forum. I suppose your research on EV's was based on what one you could buy on a Walmart income.
You said it was from X. How dumb are you to get your news from Musks platform?
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1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: AI
You wish it was AI. I thought you hated Trump. Why are you lying to defend him
When it’s proven to be true the Trumpanzees will start saying that siding with North Korea is good for Merca and how they want to live like peasants.
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2 hours ago, Skidooski said: What an angry little man baby you are. I couldn’t be happier knowing you’re a nook and not an American
My Prime minister didn’t surrender to Putin and definitely doesn’t see Kim as someone to emulate.
Putin wasted all those resources trying to take over Ukraine and all it took was a few lies from his puppet and the U.S. is his.
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12 hours ago, airflite1 said: It's from a video, I'm not a premium member of X so I couldn't copy the video, but look it up, she snaps that so called salute pretty crisply. And then look at our bumbling governor Walz, it was his signature salute until liberals called Musk a Nazi for doing the same thing so now he adds a goofy finger wave that well, just looks Weird.
You believe stories from x that defend Musk? You are a special brand of stupid.
So you probably researched EV’s on x and found that Tesla was rated the best as well. Along with stories on Trump being the bestest ever.
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3 hours ago, airflite1 said: they're all over the internet. the one I saw yesterday she was as you say giving a much more energetic and precise salute, you should be proud..
That’s not a video. Let’s compare her white power rally speach to Elons….. what’s that? She didn’t praise the white power groups??? Hmmmm
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4 hours ago, XCR1250 said: What's Trump got to do with it..Trump sells Bibles and sneakers? Did you buy yours yet?
My home was built in 1963, 60 amp service.
That’s what I meant. Old houses need to be upgraded to charge at home.
What’s Trump got to do with it?
Well he’s decided to save Tesla because Elon was nice enough to give him a few hundred million. Not sure how much Hunter got but both your heroes love EV’s now.
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On 3/16/2025 at 2:50 PM, airflite1 said: Since I've been in the market for 5 years for an EV, that's pre Liberal hate for Musk, it's only been in the last year or so that the added a charging station in Detroit Lakes, that was the go-no go point for me, If I can make to DL there are numerous chargers available from there. I had the intent to get a Mach E, just to buy local, but on a -20 day I was told a Mach E, wouldn't make it to DL, and if it did it would take a couple hours to charge. A hard no for me. 5-6 years ago EV's were great city cars but not a very good road trip car do to range, range has got so much better and charging on some much faster a handful make sense for roadtrips, hence why I decided now's the time to try one.
And since you like calling Elon a Nazi, do you call AOC a Nazi, she still uses the wave constantly along with our illustrious Governor but he did add a little finger wavy lately which comes across as a little "weird"?
Do you have a video clip of AOC doing the NAZI salute for comparison? Also did she follow that up by telling Germany’s AFD not to feel guilty for their Nazi past?
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Just now, XCR1250 said: Weird, I don't know anyone who has one..1 neighbor couple miles away has a Prius but he is flaming Liberal and that makes sense.
Have have you been living under a rock for the past week? You can stop pretending not to like them. Trump went from ripping out charging stations to praising EV’s. He said insightful things like “computer”. So you know he’s done his research.
Be a patriot, break out that checkbook and pick up a cybertruck and model S just to own the libs.
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While musk has been busy pretending to believe in free speech and fucking up the cyber truck….. other companies are passing him.
The SU7 Ultra, Xiaomi’s new flagship electric vehicle, went against a Tesla Model S Plaid in a drag race and it smoked it.
The car is ridiculously powerful, and it’s about 35% cheaper than the Plaid, which is already affordable relative to its supercar
King Trump wants you to be just like the North Korean’s
in Current Events
You’re the dumbfucks that think Trump is good for America and lap up every lie Musk says about finding wasteful spending. Meanwhile he faked selling Teslas in Canada to suck up 40 million in ev credits.