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I have a video somewhere on my phone of the TEAM roller clutch that I removed and replaced on my 17 Turbo... with the spring out you can see clear as day that the clutch cover will contact the spider nut before full shift. This was on a clutch that was already replaced before I took delivery of the sled.
I never had any cracks, but that makes sense given the nature of the issue. The guys that run wide open on lakes all day probably saw the most failures.
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For consumers I see the belt drive as a big win. Near zero maintenance and lightweight.
I could see in some racing applications it not being an ideal setup. I wonder if we will see the belt drive abandoned in those racing disciplines in favor of a traditional chaincase? Or perhaps a different belt drive design with a different tension adjustment system?
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6 hours ago, Palu49 said:
Change the bearing before it locks up and spins on the shaft then
That bearing either gets changed seasonally or get serviced in the way that jonlafon described. The tolerance is so poor the wear happens extremely quickly and even a new free spinning bearing makes little difference to shaft longevity.
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2 hours ago, Palu49 said:
While I’ll normally get in stupid arguments with mnstang on green goggler issues I’m with him on this. The Yamaha guys really started this issue because a 1 in 1000 issue drives those dorks into a frenzy. Have I seen a bunch of them that are absolutely smoked? Yes. Have I seen a bunch of sleds with well over 5k miles and the original shaft is completely fine? Yes.
It isn't 1 in 1000 though. I've gone through several shafts on multiple sleds...it's just not something that should be happening. Bearings are wear items shafts are not.
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6 minutes ago, Not greg b said:
Why would they? They need it to last 2 seasons. then they can sell you a new shaft and bearings for 500 bucks
This is essentially arguing they don't care about perceived nor actual quality....FAIL
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19 minutes ago, mnstang said:
I think a little green loctite on the shaft and should be good to go.
Yes, disassemble your brand new $20k sled to apply loctite to a critical component. It might work.
If it were that easy there are 2 scenarios:
Cat could do it (apply green loctite) at the factory and has elected not to....FAIL
Cat doesn't acknowledge the core problem at all due to cost/assembly logistics/etc....FAIL
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Personally I don't care so much about the rotor... Its the inner race of the bearing wearing out the driveshaft.
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What's crazy to me is this isn't some magic fix for a poor design...it's literally just tighter tolerances and Cat apparently couldn't even pull that off???
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Dumbfounding that Cat did not address this
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Was hoping to get out this weekend but the rain has other plans apparently.
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https://www.pinkbike.com/news/sam-hill-says-hes-not-done-with-racing.html
Apparently Nukeproof is being liquidated?
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1 minute ago, Deephaven said:
I want an ebike...but not for riding on trails. Was going to build a 7000w full squish bike to cheat on our local transport trails so that I can ride 10mi to a restaurant at lunch faster than I could drive while getting fresh air and not sweating my ass off. Trail riding something nimble and light that is forgiving is what I want.
...and yes, I could just ride a motorcycle for the above but another toy sounds like a fun build and unlike a motorcycle I won't kill myself if I ride it to the bar.
That's fair
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I have a really hard time with ebikes. To me it defeats the purpose...exercise feels good and is good for you. If I want something motorized I'll grab my motorcycle.
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My troy is a 140 rear and 150 mm up front. Some versions come with an available 160mm fork. That would be way overkill for what I typically ride. Only occasionally do I miss 27.5 wheels...the 29 is just so much faster overall in my experience, even if it doesn't feel like it. Then when riding the extremely rocky terrain of north shore upper peninsula the monster truck tires come in quite handy too.
All depends what/where/how you ride though.
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Been an avid mountain biker since high school (now 35). We are fortunate to have around 50 miles of singletrack within a 15 min drive of my house and many more within 45 minutes. I'm with many of you in that it has claimed a collar bone, in addition to a nose, two fingers, and two ribs. Of all the motorsports I do, somehow mountain biking has been the most dangerous for me
. I do a race exhibition here and there, but I mainly ride for fun.
I have a road bike as well but that mainly gets used for foundational zone2 endurance training both during and off-season on a bike trainer.
Primary ride is a Devinci Troy Carbon 29.
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44 minutes ago, Not greg b said:
Did he say anything about the “other” big bore engine that was scrapped at the same time the catalyst was put on hold?
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I'm thinking the Catalyst would've won if tunnel flares were installed
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1 hour ago, oldslowsledder said:
Nope watched it yesterday morning.
That's not it
What sled did they allocate the SOTY honors to then?
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I'm surprised our resident forum fact fabricator doesn't have constant issues with cooling. When my young nephew rides the R-XC at a constant 15 mph it definitely gets toasty.
I doubt those deflectors even do any deflecting at those speeds, let alone cooling.
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15 minutes ago, Palu49 said:
Some conditions you can’t avoid it but riding hard keeping the track spinning with studs helps a lot on the procross chassis
Yep that's pretty much my experience. Stay as "brappy" as possible
Keep the track and the water pump spinning.
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5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:
I put em on because wire scratchers throw shit all over the place... and that's the only reason
Do you run studs?
I have a feeling that's a big reason I never seem to have cooling issues except in extreme circumstances (like plowed seasonal roads).
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1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:
I know you are at least capable of reading and comprehending a products intended purpose...
https://shop.arcticcat.com/7639-969#/s/ARC//7639-969//1/y
put some on your RS and tell me how much cooler the sled runs with them...
It's wild to me those are over $100. I'll take an occasional snowball to the shoulder
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1 hour ago, oldslowsledder said:
So.... as far as the Catalyst goes, what's everyone's take on SnowTrax SOTY episode, saying that the handling and especially rear skid are not up to par with the other manufacturers? I don't pay much attention to it all but suspected that the all new Catalyst would have been chosen #1, sure they would be desperate to give AC some love.
Instead they gave it a design award.
Do you have a link to this episode? The last "Real world sled of the year" snow trax episode I can find was 2023.
I do know Snowgoer gave the Catalyst SOTY honors, fwiw.
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1 hour ago, mnstang said:
If anyone with money to buy sleds cared about 1000' radar running, the oems could easily make sleds do that and they'd dominate. It's not hard. But the only people who care about radar runs are people that don't even ride. They're not even snowmobilers just posers.
This guy pictured his zrt in his driveway, guy lives in cookie cutter suburb shitville beta land with a strip of grass between houses guy can't even ride down his own road. Radar running the lowest form of competition, not even racing it is speed running you could be slower to the finish line but still "win" wow do you iv inject the soy straight in or?? No matter what mph your sled runs you still have to go home to your beta subdivision every day and come on why is it on the track stand if you were running it all your neighbors would be calling your association just more posing
I'm dying
Free clutches from cat
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I need to find the vid or just take the clutch off the shelf and check again. I believe the cover contact occurred well before the sheaves touched. I took it off early on because I didn't want to worry about getting capped in the knee with a clutch weight.