2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Your party's base is the red states they get more federal tax dollars than the blue states, eliminate all federal funding for low income people and it will hurt far more people in the red states then it will in blue.

the lefts base is the welfare, felons and illegals, all party faithful of the left , dance around the semantics all you want but the left is the party of parasites AKA 47%ers living off the taxes paid by others.

While feeble, you at least made a attempt to justify the greed of the left.

2 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Far more of the 47% are red state voting base, hence the reason they get on average nearly twice the amount of federal aid.

And that 47% are a majority of the lefts voting base ,, anything else?

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

I have no problem lets make it zero deductions, everyone pays the same percentage.

No one owes me, you are right. Why should my state get less money back than the red states?

Why should you get a deduction for being too stupid to not use a condom?  Why should I pay for schools that I don;t have kids in? Why should I pay in for people that don' t think they should have to work?

These are your partys base.

1 minute ago, 1jkw said:

Yes.

And I don't think it is right.

If you Google or look at the links posted in this thread you will see it is the red states that benefit more than blue.

And you ignore how the 47%  (AKA liberals voting base) pay nothing,

4 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Because it costs money to raise children just like it costs to buy a house.

I don't think it's fair for anyone to get more than they pay in.

Fact is and you won't like it, the red states get more than the blue states, don't think they vote left.

Your choice , not mine....have al the puppies you want, they are not mine or anyone elses responsibility 

fact is, and you won;t like it, no one owes you a thing no matter how much  money they make.

7 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

I'm all for one tax code for everyone, very simple two deductions, mortgage interest and minor children.

You seem to think it's fair for some states to get twice as much back from the federal government. Why is that?

Why is it fair for you to get a tax break for being to stupid to use a condom?

O never said it was fair for a state to get more back than they pay in, funny how you're not whining about taxpayers  that get more back than they pay in? perhaps it's because they vote left?

1 hour ago, f7ben said:

yup....and the only way she has a lead is because its fucking Donald Trump ....about the only person in the world less trustworthy than that fucking lying cunt

It's a toss up.  they all suck.

18 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Every American has access.

 

your turn

At the real taxpayers  expense, and to the benefit of leftwing theives.

54 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

Perhaps all states should receive the same percentage of federal tax returned to them, instead of some states getting nearly twice as much on average, therefore they are able to operate with lower state taxes.

No problem, perhaps people should all, pay the same percentage of tax to pay for the cost to run the country?  I doubt you and the 47%ers would agree to pay your fair share,

4 minutes ago, 1jkw said:

I was referring to the business's moving to states with lower taxes, many times those states receive more federal  tax dollars and may actually be getting monies from the states business's are moving out of.

Perhaps the high tax states should check their spending before driving the businesses to other states?

BTW: businesses are not communes, they are for profit entities not created to provide high wagers for slackers that vote left,

4 hours ago, Ebsell said:

So I take it you actually believe those statements?

I don't believe anything from DUh underground,, and it's laughable that the same people that whine about Fox post cut and paste crap from politicus ,DUh and Salon,

Typical leftist ldealism.

3 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

Racism well never go away..it's to great a political tool.

Yup!

1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said:

WTF are you babbling about?

back away from the booze and you may be able to read and comprehend written words.

2 hours ago, SnowRider said:

I don't care what party he belongs to - I'm always leary of billionaires who want to 'help'...especially with their version of trickled on economics.  If pensions and spending need pinched - fine - but couple it with closing tax loopholes, tax shelters, and raising taxes on billion dollar businesses and the wealthy elite.  He's a billionaire....what does his skin the game look like?  

Whatta load of BS!

35 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

sleeper2    I got nuthin.

It's obvious,

31 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Poor CFO Momo caught lying again.  

Since when have you been concerned about lies

DUh underground.

8 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

But we are paying for their profits now.

12,50 an hour,

8 minutes ago, snoughnut said:

It's hilarious that a Democrat committed one of the largest municipal crimes in U.S. history.

 

How one of the biggest swindlers in American history built a horse-breeding empire

Rita Crundwell outside court in Rockford, Ill., on Nov. 14, 2012.

(Alex T. Paschal / The Telegraph)

Matt PearceContact Reporter

 

Want to buy 767 horse-championship trophies belonging to one of the biggest swindlers in American history? Now’s your chance.

In 2013, a small-town city official by the name of Rita Crundwell was sentenced to almost 20 years in federal prison for stealing at least $53.7 million from the city of Dixon, Ill.

Crundwell, the town’s longtime comptroller, used the millions to build a horse-breeding empire so enormous that federal investigators are still auctioning it off, piece by ill-gotten piece.

Now the U.S. Marshals Service is taking bids for Crundwell’s hundreds of horse trophies and ribbons, piled up from the years when she dominated quarter horse breeding championships and was known to envious competitors and fans simply as “Rita.”

Three and a half years after she was arrested, we continue to be on the hunt for her assets. I think we're getting close to the finish line. — Jason Wojdylo, a chief inspector for the Marshals Service

 

“Three and a half years after she was arrested, we continue to be on the hunt for her assets,” said Jason Wojdylo, a chief inspector for the Marshals Service who has spent that time chasing and seizing Crundwell’s money and property. “I think we’re getting close to the finish line.”

Crundwell, 62, had been a star before her fall from grace. Hundreds of her quarter horses were sold in 2012 in a spectacular auction that drew thousands of visitors from all over the country, reportedly jamming hotels for miles around. One of Crundwell’s world-champion horses, Good I Will Be, brought $775,000 from a Canadian bidder.

The feds have auctioned off frozen horse semen — valuable to breeders — a lavish motor home, trucks and trailers worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, which Crundwell acquired while making $80,000 a year from the city of Dixon, population 15,333.

A current online auction for 290 items including Crundwell’s clothes, shoes and handbags is a little more intimate, but no less unusual.

Fifteen bids have driven the cost of one T-shirt from a 2008 quarter horse championship to $205. NFL great Terry Bradshaw had signed the shirt, adding the message, “Rita, you are the best!” The word “best” is underlined.

Rita Crundwell's horse trophies are up for sale by U.S. Marshals Service officials trying to recoup the $53.7 million she stole from the city of Dixon, Ill.

(U.S. Marshal's Service)

At the time, among quarter horse owners, Crundwell was the best. Now, among residents, she’s reviled.

In October, a local columnist jokingly suggested readers could bid for one of Crundwell’s city of Dixon shirts — sewn with the name “Rita” and now going for $10 — to make a “Killer Comptroller” Halloween costume.

“This is the Rita outfit that says you’re here to work,” Brenden West wrote for SaukValley.com. “You’re rocking your official city gear that says to everyone you’re here to help Dixon function. No one should question that you’re secretly siphoning off millions from taxpayers when you’re in that unsuspecting salmon polo.”

That’s pretty much how it happened. Crundwell started working for the city part time as a high school student and later became city comptroller, a position she held for almost 30 years.

“She knew where everything was at,” James Burke, Dixon's then-mayor, told the Los Angeles Times in 2012. “I could ask her for some contracts with the utility company or something several years ago, and she would wheel around and pull something right out of her desk.”

He added, “I guess that was her strong point and her weak point.”

A co-worker noticed suspicious bank activity while filling in for Crundwell, and an FBI inquiry revealed that the quarter horse queen had been funneling money from the city into her personal accounts since the 1990s.

One of Crundwell's champion quarter horses, Good I Will Be, which sold for auction to a Canadian bidder for $750,000.

(U.S. Marshal's Service)

In just six months, the FBI quietly watched Crundwell take at least $3.2 million from the city before arresting her in April 2012. Dixon’s operating budget is only about $10 million a year. Crundwell pleaded guilty to fraud a few months later.

“From the time she started to steal, the city had about $10 million in a fund balance,” said Paula Meyer, Dixon’s current finance director. “By the time she was arrested, we were $22 million in debt.”

Before Crundwell was caught, Dixon city employees had gone years without getting raises and streets went unpaved. At an October 2011 City Council meeting, officials fretted over a “fiscal crisis” that prevented them from hiring part-time employees.

“The city had been borrowing $5 million a year at the end of it because she was stealing so much,” said Liandro Arellano, a 34-year-old business owner who swept into the mayor’s office along with an all-new City Council this spring.

Crundwell’s massive theft prompted an uproar and questions about how she had gotten away with her crimes for so long. Seeking stronger oversight, the city’s voters last year chose to ditch its commissioner system and switch to a city-manager form of government.

The city also sued the auditors and bank that failed to catch the fraud and settled for $40 million, though attorneys’ fees claimed about $10 million of that amount. The city has since used the money to help pay off its debts and attend to long-neglected infrastructure projects.

The city has gotten less help from Crundwell’s estate. U.S. Marshals have been able to return $9.5 million to Dixon after seizing and selling her assets but are not expecting the total to be much more than $10 million.

That’s paltry compared with the $107 million that Wojdylo says Crundwell owed Dixon for restitution plus a monetary judgment awarded to the city.

In addition to all of Crundwell’s travel and pay for veterinarians and other employees, “most of the money she stole went through the horses … literally, in the form of hay, feed, and then out of the horses in the form of manure,” Wojdylo said.

In a way, Crundwell still works for Dixon: The city is garnishing the pay she gets from her work in federal prison in Waseca, Minn. On average, she earns about $65 a month.

“If she was supposed to pay us back $107 million, minus what we recovered … that means she still owes us $97 million,” said Meyer, the finance director, calculating how long Crundwell would have to work to pay back the money on $65 a month.

The answer: 124,359 years.

“I don’t think she’ll make it,” Meyer said.

It's OK, according to Timeshare we have billions of taxpayers that are not paying their fair share,  

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

You do know the reason for that right? The root cause of their downfall.

Le'me guess, the evil rich.

Just now, SnowRider said:

How can 'Christian Momo' support a guy like Rump give his background? . Is the 'family values' rhetoric forgotten?  

How can you support rapists, murderers and racists?

You own double standards are laughable.

6 hours ago, Biggie Smails said:

You don't even make sense so you are going the way of Momo....see ya anonymous Sheldon.

Jimmy the dumbfucks version of "I got Nuthin!""