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    The real derangement is in those that literally cannot find anything positive in anything Trump does. This proves its mental and not logical. Plenty of those on this website.

    The next level down of TDS are those that might agree with one or two things he has done then follow it up with a but..... lol Few of those as well.

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    31 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

    Why don't you read the H2A requirements and defend them all? As obtuse and silly of a request.

    Offering "solutions" on an obscure snowmobile site sounds like a really effective way of making change....if your name is Lloyd. Be smarter than Lloyd.

    You know as well as I do that the same people that are celebrating this are going to cry when the ramifications come. Those ramifications were avoidable if the situation was addressed making the necessary program work. This of course means we need to enforce those programs and that starts with putting liability on the farmers and the ones making illegal payments to illegals. This government bandaid is only going to hurt those that think it is a good idea. That shit show is going to be fun to watch.

    I have read them and honestly none seem difficult or unrealistic.

    So coming on a obscure snowmobile website and crying about literally everything Trump does is somehow a more effective means of change? Offering solutions in a discussion is simply a means of expanding the dialog beyond....."orange man bad....he make me angry."

    Govt hasn't been interested in making the programs in place work. That's why we have 30 million + illegals here.

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    1 minute ago, Deephaven said:

    The real issues are the idiotic costs and red tape of the program. It rapes the farmers, is a bureaucratic disaster, full of compliance nonsense, and is completely inflexible which is disastrous when you take weather and such into account. The government sadly never wants to fix a problem, they just want to slap a bandaid on it. My biggest hope with Trump was that he wouldn't be a politician, but so far it's been bandaid after bandaid.

    They cried the loudest under Biden and are now turning a koolaid soaked eye.

    Yes because these programs are so easy to set up perfectly. lol Give us some examples of how you would set up a temporary visa worker program. You cry all day on here but never off any solutions.

    They cried under Biden because of the cause of the inflation dude. Trump supporters NEVER wanted the economy shut down. It was obvious to us they picked winners and losers. We were realistic with the virus and how it should have been handled. Jesus you really have let the TDS fog your brain.

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    You can address them both and should.

    And that will make every magat yell about inflation in the grocery store. It needs to happen, but the first step should be to look at the policies that made it go the route it went.

    Honestly dude its not the so called maga people on here crying about inflation now that its gotten under control. Its the RINO's and libtards.

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    19 minutes ago, akvanden said:

    I’m not sure what’s your allegiance is to H2A in its current form or why’d you be against improving it. I think most here can be honest that our current system is inefficient, at best, and can be improved upon. Why you want to argue about the details is beyond me.

    I never once said it couldn't be improved I'm simply stating there is a system in place and it should be utilized until its improved. Again I'm coming at this with direct knowledge of farms using the program and have not heard a lot of complaints from them.

    I think in general most on the left have a problem with the h2a program because its temporary where they want to allow permanent residence.

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    59 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

    World is black and white to magats. I expected better of you Highmark as you normally at least think unlike most on here.

    Nowhere did I state I wanted cheap strawberries. I was only pointing out the fallacy of what is being proposed. The magats all claim and want no inflation yet their behavior is triggering a significant raise in cost. I've never ever proposed that we use illegals for anything, the opposite in fact. Our system is flawed. We need lower wage workers, but they need to be here legally and to pay taxes period.

    There is no question that this will raise prices. No one is interested in replacing these illegals. The magats who claim differently are nuts. They will also be the first to scream again as the prices of their daily food habits inflate. Right now they are blinded by devotion to their king. Really sad that we went from absurd liberal inflation to only want to do the same again with a supposed conservative that is raising taxes and greatly increasing the cost of production of US goods.

    As for the bold.....lol

    Dude there is a big difference from inflation caused by excess govt spending and printing money and the cost of goods going up naturally because of changes in the labor market. You cannot separate the two.

    If farms cannot go thru the current legal immigration system in place then so be it.....pay enough to hire American's, get automated or go out of business. Its not responsibility of the govt to provide cheap fucking labor for ANY market much less AG. Fuckers get enough from govt. As I stated before I know some rather large hog operations and they bring in h2a foreign workers and do it right. If they can others should be able to as well. But lets be real....that's a very small part of the overall illegal immigration issue. Obama addressed it and it was no problem. Trump's taking it to the next step and all of a sudden there are cries of inflation. GMAFB.

    If ICE is going after some of these folks (H2A visa holders) I'm pretty sure they have committed a crime and SHOULD be sent back. If they haven't I don't agree with the deportation.

    He is spot on to a point except we now give out plenty of govt aid to illegals.

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    12 minutes ago, akvanden said:

    Yes, although it’s criticized for being complex, slow, and costly. What’s wrong with immigration reform? What’s wrong with making things more efficient? There’s a whole Farm Modernization Act bill being proposed (bipartisan) aimed at tackling some of these criticisms.

    “Nooo! Everything’s fine just the way it is!!!”

    You shouldn’t.

    It could be....simply force employers to follow the fucking rules.

    So what's your solution beyond...."just let them come here and work and leave." lmao We know they just go back voluntarily when life here is so much better.

    People love to cry about what is going on with no solutions themselves.

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    38 minutes ago, akvanden said:

    Pickup what tab? We can impose as many cost barriers as we want, but why would we. Make it easy for them to come work, legally, and then go back.

    Isn't that what the H2A visa program is? If they are "temporary" why is it unreasonable for the employer to provide at minimum housing?

    Let me guess you would rather they find shitty accommodations and stick 20+ people in a small house or apartment.

    Its hilarious listening to the likes of you and Deep on this.

    Twins: We need to fix the immigration system!

    Me: How?

    Twins: Let them come legally work and go home.

    Me: Bit more complicated than that dude and we already have a program like that in place where 90-95% of those applications are accepted. I just think if farms and companies are going to bring them in temporarily they should have to provide certain services.

    Twins: That's too expensive.....I want my cheap strawberries!

    16 hours ago, akvanden said:

    Which is expensive, and as mentioned, most won’t care until they see it in their grocery prices. The immigration system in general needs an overhaul.

    Why shouldn't it be costly? You want the taxpayers to pick up the tab for these farms many that are corporate?

    Its not just the immigration system that needs an overhaul but the welfare system as well. We got millions and millions of people capable of work in this country that won't. Let's put in place firm work requirements for many of the welfare programs.

    We simply cannot give quick path to citizenship then even stress our social system even more. Sure there is some economic benefit but there is also a cost....now and later.

    15 hours ago, Mainecat said:

    Pay attention they are arresting even the H2A workers and many are not coming because they are scared.

    I know this as I know a large orchard owner. His Jamaicans that have been coming for decades are staying home.

    FUCK TRUMP AND ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS HIM.

    Yeah...H2A workers that have committed a crime. Good riddance.

    Funny now you care...in the old days you had the same opinion as me regarding illegal immigration. lol

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    2 hours ago, Mainecat said:

    But egg prices…

    Immigration raids leave crops unharvested, California farms at risk

    Source: Reuters

    Lisa Tate is a sixth-generation farmer in Ventura County, California, an area that produces billions of dollars worth of fruit and vegetables each year, much of it hand-picked by immigrants in the U.S. illegally.

    Tate knows the farms around her well. And she says she can see with her own eyes how raids carried out by agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the area’s fields earlier this month, part of President Donald Trump’s migration crackdown, have frightened off workers.

    “In the fields, I would say 70% of the workers are gone,” she said in an interview. “If 70% of your workforce doesn’t show up, 70% of your crop doesn’t get picked and can go bad in one day. Most Americans don’t want to do this work. Most farmers here are barely breaking even. I fear this has created a tipping point where many will go bust.”

    In the vast agricultural lands north of Los Angeles, stretching from Ventura County into the state’s central valley, two farmers, two field supervisors and four immigrant farmworkers told Reuters this month that the ICE raids have led a majority of workers to stop showing up.

    That means crops are not being picked and fruit and vegetables are rotting at peak harvest time, they said.

    Read more: https://archive.ph/a3xaa

    1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

    Trump will definitely not cause any inflation.

    6 minutes ago, akvanden said:

    People won't care until they pay for it in grocery stores.

    I know of plenty of farms that go thru the proper channels to hire foreign farm workers. Are California farms incapable of this or do they hire undocumented so they can pay shit wages, avoid FICA taxes and other requirements like housing?

    I love how this is Trump's fault yet NOBODY seems to want to look at the business'.

    90-95% of H2A visa applications are accepted.

    H-2A worker housing requirements mandate that employers provide free, safe, and sanitary housing for H-2A workers and those in corresponding employment who cannot reasonably return home each day. This housing must meet specific standards for space, sanitation, safety, and amenities. 

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    3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

    there's not enough of the greatest generation around left to blame... on the Internet. lmao

    Debt to GDP... Foxes running the Henhouse

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    news So in 2000 the average age in congress was born between 1940 and 1945. Greenspan was born in 1926. Lots of silent generation help bring on the financial crisis of 2007-8. Biden was born in 1942. Sorry dude it wasn't all boomers. The financial crisis and plandemic were the worst things to happen to this country financially maybe in its history.

    In 2000, the average age of members of the House of Representatives was approximately 54.4 years, while the average age of Senators was around 59.8 years, according to EveryCRSReport.com. This information is from the 107th Congress, which began in 2001. 

    10 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

    maybe they see how the boomers have sucked all the marrow clean out of the bone and want to 'get theirs too'... like Grandma and Grandpa are.

    thirty years or more of Democrats and Republicans spending, not funding the actual spending via taxes, continuously kicking the can down the road while spending even more and giving tax cuts... what's so hard to understand? lolz

    Iraq 1 - paid for?

    Afghanistan - paid for?

    Iraq 2 - paid for?

    Obamacare - paid for?

    Covid spending and stimulus - paid for?

    Social Security - due to run low on funds by 2035 - underfunded

    Medicare - one of our biggest annual expenses - underfunded

    who the fuck has been in charge and in office the past three decades running (ruining) this shit show? fucking boomers buddy... not the generations behind them.

    Yeah but plenty of Silent generation where part of that spending shit show. What generation gave us Vietnam? Wasn't the Boomers.

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    4 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

    They wouldn’t want sledders driving on the land they bought with their tax cuts.

    Maybe you should look at your own house before posting bullshit dude. groin

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    AI Overview

    Yes, Canada does sell public land, often referred to as Crown land, to private owners, but it's a complex process with specific regulations. While a significant portion of Canada's land is owned by the Crown (both federal and provincial), it's not uncommon for portions of this land to be sold for various purposes, including development, resource extraction, and agriculture. 

    3 hours ago, revkevsdi said:

    They wouldn’t want sledders driving on the land they bought with their tax cuts.

    Ever heard of the Blue Ribbon Coalition? I'm a donating member.....go ask them which party closes access to OHV more. So typical of the likes of you and MC....spewing bullshit without links or knowledge of what actually is going.

    https://blueribboncoalition.org/

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    3 minutes ago, Cat45 said:

    Yep, and this site is a good example of what they're doing with race relations. Get mostly like minded people worked up arguing about political differences so we don't see how bad we're being screwed by the government. Can't unite against them if we're fighting about what was posted on social media

    Even Google's AI recognizes 2011-12 when the whole thing spiked.

    11 minutes ago, Cat45 said:

    And imo that's when everything started going sideways in this country. Coincidence? possibly, but there's definitely been a shift in values and attitudes here since then

    Absolutely did regarding race relations. Its when the left decided to prop it up as their main political ideal.

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    3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

    just tossing out hypotheticals... but yeah, Trump 1.0 was correct about cyber security and election safety when he signed it. of course he didn't like the outcome of their findings in 2020 so Trump 2.0 has an axe to grind and here we are.

    lmao