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59 minutes ago, krom said:

Ride them both, even the poo guys will tell you that the riot works better on the trails than the assault.

I've ridden both, assault handled way better than the riot. It did have gripper skis and 8in carbides and the riot was on stockers with 6in. My rr handled better than both but for a crossover the assault was pretty nice. Off trail i was burried everywhere and he'd ride circles around me. Next sled will probably be a catalyst riot with a wide zr front end and custom shocks. 

5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

Poo in the past claimed the tipped up ends makes them easier to turn, which makes sense.  buddy had an assault and I was a bit surprised how well it turned with that much length on a groomed trail.  Cat uses bigger rear wheels than Poo for whatever reason.   

It's definitely a good working setup for polaris. I wish cat would do that on the riot. I'd like to get a ride on the 136 xcr, tipped rails and a 2.52 track would be a fun setup

31 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

in theory on a hard surface the rear two lugs aren't touching the ground... which makes it a 128 

their Enduro sleds are 128's and they haul ass

There's more too it than just 2 less lugs on the ground. I think the way the track wraps around the rear wheels with the angle in the rear and probably a different angle on the front rails makes it more efficient and faster. 

1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

121 and 129 have the same number of bar/lugs

128 and 137 have the same number of bars/lugs

136 and 144(?) have the same number of bars/lugs

so, for a big bore a 136 would be the sweet spot for a traction/braking advantage imo but the conversation was about 600cc Cross Country sleds

SX sleds are 136... more paddles per sq in = more diggage  

As stated previously, if/when I pick up a 600 Catalyst I'd get a 129, then convert it to a 128 and re-gear it for the trails i enjoy.  If I were to go with a big bore it'd get a 136. 

Polaris XCRs come in 128 or 136, their CC race sled is a tipped rail 136.  All their other trail sleds are 129/137

 

I think the tipped rails is where the speed comes from on the polaris. The rail profile is more efficient than the cats. My buddies assault you can push the sled with 1 foot on the bumper and it rolls. My 137 cat wouldn't roll more than a few inches. I had everything aligned/squared up and all bearings in good shape too. The guy on the assault is just gas and ride, no setup at all

Old school 121 would be the quickest in that case. Imo 128 is the best trail setup, 144 for a cross over. 137 is a slug, like running a bus down the trail. I hated my 137 rr even after many hrs/ miles of setup. 

1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

if they have someone capable of doing it... 

nice try using logic with him

from 2018-2024 all RXCs (minus one year) were 129's 

why do you think that was when they had 137s and a 136 SX sled?  as RF pointed out the Procross 137 RXC wasn't well received.

too bad there wasn't ditch races this year to see if they made the right decision.  in fairness the Poo is a 136 and the Doo a 137

also, why was the RS a 129 instead of a 137 ?   

Roger knew...

 

Roger knows all kinds of cool stuff, I'm betting jimbo runs his mouth more than he listens around him (assuming him knowing roger isn't bullshit like the rest of what he says)

1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said:

? Fuck! 

That's the most intelligent thing you've ever posted 

Just now, ZR6000RR said:

Dave Brown  is a Cat Racer and Engineer. They tested. 137 won. 

How could it be better? You said nobody could tell the difference

29 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

At least I fuck! You just babble. There is literally no difference. I have had both. Cat chose the 137 because the racers preferred it. I know it is a tough pill, but? 

The fact you can't tell the difference really shows your true skill and knowledge of sleds and racing. Any chance there's geometry changes and arm length/mounting differences between the 2? You might be able to bullshit your buddies at the bar with your name dropping but you really are in a whole different game than the guys you're talking to here

I set myself up differently than most, i was self employed at 30 as an owner operator. I take july through November off work every year and long weekends through sled season. It's definitely affecting my retirement savings but i enjoyed life while i was young and could do anything i wanted. My plan is to keep at this schedule untill I'm 60 then go haul rv's. Basically get paid to tour around the country untill i die. The only thing that sucks about this is all your friends end up being old because people your age are all slaving away at work while you're out having fun

1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

Catalyst mod... we're not quite there.  Translation... it's not fast. 

 

It's fast enough for jimbo and that's all that matters 

27 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Do you seriously think Trump is any different?  Hasn't been a guy more tuned in to WIFM radio run for office that I can remember.

He's pretty much the same as any politician now. I do hope he wins and burns the establishment down around him on his way out but sadly i don't think it'll happen 

36 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

He's been fucking with politicians for years. He will never truly be one of them because of that. He did it for himself, not for the good of the people.

Do you seriously think any politician is doing it for the good of the people not for themselves? I suppose you're the kind the believes "they're from the government and they're here to help"

Just now, Steve753 said:

I keep being told Trump is not a politician.  Thats what makes him different.

So which is he then?

He wasn't prior to becoming president, now he's the same as the rest of the swamp, and we're stuck with the better of 2 shitty candidates. Saw a video the other day saying we aren't really free anymore, just free range humans living in a tax farm. That's the most accurate description I've seen of this country. it doesn't matter who's in charge, we're getting screwed

3 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Making Mexico pay for the wall was one his main talking points.

So was his tremendous health care plan.

The healthcare plan was pure bs, i do think mexico was going to pay for the wall through trade agreements not writing a check like all the retards thought. Again, you seem surprised that a politician lied.....

2 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Then why say he was going to drain it? Just like saying Mexico was going to pay for his wall. 

1st time you've ever heard a politician lie?  they lie, misrepresent and exaggerate every time they open their mouth

2 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Right away you say supporting Biden. Ffs I dont want either of them. 

He hired the swamp the first time. Nothing will be different if he wins except the chaos surrounding him will return.

What do you expect a non politician to do? You need to hire experienced people to run the place. I think he truly believed he could drain tbe swamp but didn't realize the whole system is corrupt to the core and needs to be burned down and restarted 

19 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

I'd be more embarrassed to be a Trump supporter personally. You're basically admitting you're lacking intelligence. 

I'm far from a trumper but he's way better than voting for any democratic. I think his supporters are just sick of the government fuckery and think he's going to actually drain the swamp. Unfortunately the government is too big to fail unless there's violence and the country is too pussified to do anything like that. 

11 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

I see quite a few Trump signs etc. but have not seen 1 Biden anything this time around.

I live between the 2 liberal cesspools of our county and haven't seen 1 pro biden flag anywhere. I know the supporters are here but they're too embarrassed to openly admit it

On 3/10/2024 at 8:24 AM, Steve753 said:

Have yet to see any Trump trains this year. Actually in all my travels, I've only seen 5 Trump flags in total.

I put on 4k mi a week all over the country and i see pro trump stuff everywhere. I can't remember the last time i saw a biden flag.

On 3/7/2024 at 6:47 PM, Mainecat said:

Imagine a country where a convicted rapist and fraud, under 91 indictments and is out on bail gets cheered. It’s fuckin sickening. Meanwhile he’s meeting with a dictator in his gold palace…..one that’s ok too.

 

Imagine a country where the president isn't mentally capable to stand trial, can't complete a sentence, or walk up the stairs 

10 hours ago, Steve753 said:

He broke the law and didn't adhere to previous warnings. 

Unlawful conduct. (2) Knowingly, with force and violence, to enter or to remain upon the floor of either House of the Congress. (7) To parade, demonstrate, or picket within any of the Capitol Buildings

Sounds like an insurrection!

36 minutes ago, krom said:

If they listened to the comments from people at the shows, and online, they would already know about the seat foam, and clutching, acknowledge the issues, and at least lie and say "we're looking into it" As those are the 2 biggest things spoken about on catalyst pages..

 

It's almost like they just don't care.....definitely not the reps like the old days that would actually listen. I'm betting most Aren't even from the industry,  probly just another job for them on their way to bigger better things

50 minutes ago, Voodoo said:

Slavery was a federal issue, like Roe vs Wade and abortion.

Election laws, the valuation of property to banks and its repercussions are also state prerogative.

The orange devil will likely be the next president, but he still broke the law in New York and Georgia. States rights and all.

 

Once that cat is out of the bag, it will spread..as it has.

There is no “sacred ground” to illegal activity.

Here in Ontario, it’s still illegal to drive a lawn tractor drunk on your own property.

 

 

I wouldn't have agreed with slavery like i don't believe in abortion but if i was alive in those times i still likely would've voted for the rights of the states vs the federal government. Imo the biggest threat we have to our freedoms is a bloated fed government with too much controll over our lives

51 minutes ago, Voodoo said:

Yep, go back and overturn something decided 50 years ago.

Now we can go back hundreds of years ago and debate slavery and land claims by descendents of slaves and by natives.

Im pretty  sure natives were living on my land, long before I bought it in 2008.

The crazy will never end.

California wants reparations, if we can go back 50 years, why not 200?

The difference is, if you don't like California's laws and reparations you can move, if the feds do it we're all fucked. I'm all for states rights and as small of a fed government as possible