3 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

Ya....  trump has been talking about leveling the trade playing field since he won the presidency back in 2016.   The company said this restart is due to the tariffs....  it’s in the first paragraph

And Harley said their move is due to the tariffs

Oops

Acquired in 2017

This was planned before the tariffs!!!!

Oops

5 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Tariff job losses gains according to the article.

-60 to +4700.   Hmmmm more winning.  Funny how Vince concentrates on the 60 lost instead of the net 4630 gained.  

There will not be a net gain due to the tariffs.  History has proven this.

1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

How much are taxes going to offset that? And I’d like to see their projections over that of you saying $100m will be their additional costs. This is a purely macro conversation that everyone is choosing to have a micro conversation about. It’s just imperially incorrect. 

No idea, but the tariffs are going to cost $2200 per bike and Harley has chosen to absorb that cost so the price of their product doesn’t rise in Europe.  Seems like Trump gave them 100 million reasons to finalize their decision to move some production to Europe.

3 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said:

Gud learnt der ya.

That’s the key to this. Same with Harley-Davidson. They know that PR is king with publically traded companies. Even the whiff of choosing to overseas operations causes bad PR. They had a perfect scape goat to do what was already in the works. Someone in marketing needs a raise. They piled the wool over the entire media. Anyone with a clue sees through that BS though.

 

So Trump’s tariffs aren’t going to cost Harley $100 million this year?

Huh

Why didn’t you just bump your chirp thread from yesterday?

2 hours ago, steve from amherst said:

Lumber prices are higher than their housing bubble highs

http://www.businessinsider.com/lumber-prices-higher-than-housing-bubble-highs-2018-6

 

But nails cant handle a price increase?

 

Nails can be made anywhere and I would expect there are many sources for them outside the US that are cheaper.

How many sources for cheaper lumber are there?

This isn’t that complicated....

43 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

Looking at this chart he looks to be around 40% at this time and Republicans won the house back in record fashion and took back multiple seats in the Senate when many were no up for reelection. The midterms will speak volumes. If Democrats win in 2010 fashion then the country is against trump. if Republicans add seats they are with him. Democrats are clinging to Family separation which is a self-inflicted wound. If that issue didn't happen Trump is in the mid 50's riding the NK and booming economy wave. Is Family Separation as unpopular as ObamaCare, we will see? 

Speaking of family separation, are all the kids back with their parents now?  How many days has it been since the EO?

Secret Service: Trump faces same number of threats as Obama

Demands loyalty, gives none

1 minute ago, Sal Rosenberg said:

 

 

Jesus , another thread on the same subject    They are so angry and eager to find something that can be perceived as bad news that these guy's can't even take the time to see if someone else found it first

Well it is bad news.  If it was good news, their stock wouldn’t have dropped today.  If it was good news, the tariffs wouldn’t cost them $100 million dollars this year.

Just now, Mainecat said:

ok I change my stance on this issue. Tarrifs that cause US companies to layoff American workers and move operations overseas are awesome.

 

What about all the value their shareholders lost today on the news?  That’s awesome too.

How about the $100 million Harley is going to absorb this year so their bikes are still competitive in Europe?  More winning.

Trade wars are good and easy to win

MAGA

Harley isn't the only company having to reassess its corporate model on the fly.

CEOs surveyed by the influential Business Roundtable lobby said this month they've reduced their hiring plans for the year by 13 percent and trimmed their spending expectations by 4 percent.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna886361

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Yeah that’s it...only Ted Nugent....you are so blinded with partisan hack bullshit it’s comical.

On a scale of 1 to 10 for partisan hackery, Wolfie is a 93

Never heard of her

How do you decapitate someone on Twitter?

3 minutes ago, ATOMIC PUNK said:

im shocked! You sure you said that right?

Yup 

It was a stupid thing to say 

Just now, DAVE said:

Yes you are!

No Maxine Waters is!

Dumb

Just saw MC’s 

Oops

Harley-Davidson shifts some production overseas as EU tariff of $2,200 per bike kicks in

Company sold 40,000 Harleys in Europe last year, more than anywhere else in the world except U.S.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/harley-davidson-tariff-1.4720531

11 minutes ago, Snake said:

The FBI’s OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe.  Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor - including under oath - on multiple occasions. The FBI expects every employee to adhere to the highest standards of honesty, integrity, and accountability.  As the OPR proposal stated, ‘all FBI employees know that lacking candor under oath results in dismissal and that our integrity is our brand.’  Pursuant to Department Order 1202, and based on the report of the Inspector General, the findings of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility, and the recommendation of the Department’s senior career official, I have terminated the employment of Andrew McCabe effective immediately.” 

^^^^^^^^

Old news and it isn’t any kind of proof of corruption.

Who else has had a criminal referral besides McCabe?  

Anyone?

14 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

Are you still clinging to the notion that the FBI was impartial in the Clinton e-mail probe?  Think Mueller investigation is above boards?

 

 

Matt Gaetz lol

Are you suggesting that Horowitz investigated the FBI’s Clinton email investigation for months, came out with an almost 600 Page report and forgot to include his findings of guilt?

14 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Howie Carr is fucking awesome....I mean he doesn't advocate killing cops, or spit food when he talks, but he calls out corrupt pols of both stripes all the time.  You and angry Jim can hang your hat on a post I made that may have been incorrect, lets see how long you two clowns will beat that dead horse.  Meanwhile, you're still morons who still haven't posted a single credible statistic about illegal crime rates.   

Actual stats have been posted.  You just didn’t like them because they don’t line up with your delusional alt fake reality.