Catman

6 hours ago, 02sled said:

Are your middle names mentally and incompetent? I guess you just skipped by all those predictions that the genius scientists made as far back as 1970 that were undeniably based on scientific fact. You know... all those ones about millions on North Americans being dead by 2000, things like New York City being under water decades ago. Or the scientist that predicted an ice age by 2000 due to global cooling.

You're almost right. The cause celeb a while ago was global warming but the "experts" that touted that as the end of the world found they were unable to support their arguments and switched to the current cause celeb of climate change.

You also seem to conveniently ignore that the global climate has been changing continually for the last billion or so years and will continue to do so regardless of what we do. Are you going to deny that Ant Arctica was once tropical. SCIENCE has found proof of that. Tropical vegetation buried under the ice. Or that the northern US was under a layer of ice about a mile thick. I'm waiting for your explanation of what MAN did to create the massive global warming that saw the retreat of that layer of ice, the creation of the Great Lakes and exposure of the Precambrian Shield. That rock is estimated at 4.2 B years old. Man must have had a major impact on that.

Such a mental midget as yourself probably believes in little green men from Mars creating crop circles as well.

By the way when did insurance companies start making predictions about global warming / climate change.

You're right about banning CFC's but guess what... the predictions about the ozone layer by the genius scientists failed to ring true. The ozone layer miraculously and unexplainably was healing itself without the ban on CFCs.

Keep drinking the KoolAid propaganda put out by those with a vested interest in getting huge grants to keep themselves employed studying it all.

You are so consistently wrong I can only feel sympathy for those around you.

Another post of absolute bullshit and drivel.   

- I love that you are calling me a conspiracy believer when I'm the one trusting science and scientists while you ignore it and call it get this: a conspiracy !!!   How fucking stupid can you get?!

- There hasn't been this much co2 in the atmosphere for 300 milion years.  That's about 299,700,000 more than humans have been around. FYI and it's causing warming contrary to what you think you know.

- Sorry everyone 02sled needs to get ahold of these guys and set them straight on climate change

https://www.munichre.com/en/group/focus/climate-change/index.html

http://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/sustainability/climate-change.html

- I'd love to read about your source saying the ozone layer began healing BEFORE the banning of CFCs.  Love it!  Idiot!

- The earth is warming faster than anytime in human history and similarly as fast as times around major climate events such as....  get this: THE ICE AGES.  Must be the propoganda

- Tell me about the big money green conspiracy that doesn't involve 5 of the 10 biggest companies in the world, 3 being among the biggest 5.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue

go lay down

2 hours ago, Ez ryder said:

what are your thoughts on the predicted outcome  if every one obeys the Paris agreement to the T? remember the results were from there own picked science teams     

From what I can comprehend the Paris agreement is not nearly enough to reverse what we've already done or even to stop the trend.  Co2 sticks around in the atmosphere for a long time.   

Thanks very much though, for supporting a President, or at least his policy for backing out and being the single biggest denier today.  The USA is the world's #2 emitter and will obviously continue to be. 

My opinion about what will happen is simply nothing good.

There are a few consistencies though: As the earth warms, AND IT IS FUCKING WARMING,  it will only continue to warm if we keep it up.  Ice melts and seas rise, if NOTHING else.  That's the best case scenario and so we just have to move away from the coastlines.  Its happening NOW! When will it get unbearable?  Who the fuck knows, but it's happening now and there's nothing to suggest it is going to change based on the patterns were in.

I just saw something about a machine thrve made that abosorbs co2 and fuels greenhouses.  Is that the answer? 

1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said:

I believe the planet is warming and that climates across the globe are changing.  My position on that has been consistent for more than a decade.  I am not convinced that man is the primary cause but I do believe that man has effect.  

Go tell that to all your buds here then instead of encouraging their misinformed opinions. While you're doing it, perhaps do some more reading on the impact man is in fact having.   There is scientific consensus man is the primary driver of the recent warming trend.

As I said earlier climate change and global warming are different you are using them interchangeably..  I don't believe I've read anywhere that man is the primary cause of climate change.

2 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

If you're afraid to answer the question just back away.  No problem.  

Afraid of what question?  One you have no interest in actually learning about?

Your question is answered already. Me transposing it here AGAIN will help nobody esspcially me.   It's a waste I time.  

So again I'll ask you because only YOU can answer.  Why prop up people who are factually wrong, and even in your own opinion you disagree with?  Must be an alternative fact thing?

Just now, AKIQPilot said:

 

 

Your comments are the definition of hypocrisy.  

Promote those who deny it's occuring and in the next breath say it's occuring.

You're a real contrived piece of shit.

2 hours ago, 02sled said:

The indisputable scientific fact made the following predictions starting back at the first earth day in 1970... oops. I GUESS THE SCIENCE WAS WRONG

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in his 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980, when it might level out.

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

"Some people were wrong 50 years ago so everyone must be wrong now".  Great fucking argument!   Idiot!

2 hours ago, AKIQPilot said:

Hahaha.  

If that doesn't give MM warmers pause nothing will.   

Oh look another idiot jumping on the dummy train.  Congrats!

2 hours ago, 02sled said:

Dumb as a stump Catman strikes. Pay attention to the bouncing ball... what is the latest fad that has government jumping on the bandwagon.... oh that's right carbon taxes where you buy carbon credits for CO₂  production. Keep on reading the BS propaganda about MAN causing global warming.... oops climate change since global warming has been proven to be BS. Oh that's right... the propaganda also spewed how MAN was destroying the ozone layer and by 2000 2/3 of the planet would be baked and starving. Oh that's right... the ozone layer miraculously healed itself and became a non-issue that quietly slid into obscurity.

I vote Catman for sucker of the year. You had better stop driving your car/truck, give up sleds/atvs, stop heating your home and so much more because it's going to destroy the climate.

The irony... Good Fucking god

Carbon tax or any other government derived "fix" is irrelevant to the discussion and to your earlier drivel as well.  Completely different topic.  

Climate change and global warming are 2 different things.  It's no conspiracy there are 2 different terms as you imply and has been discussed ad nauseum here and elsewhere.

https://climate.nasa.gov/resources/global-warming/

Ozone layer depletion was caused mostly by aerosol CFC which were banned decades ago.  No shit, scientists have seen an improvement to the ozone layer since.  Who knew! Not 02dumbfuck obviously.

Global warming is BS?  Huh, who knew you are more informed than all the scientists, insurance companies, oil companies, universities, governments, etc.  

We must have a real life Moses on our hands, that or You're a total fucking imbecile.

2 hours ago, 02sled said:

Educate us as to how MAN caused the massive retreat of the ice of 11,000 years ago. Talk about global warming. That must have been a massive change in the climate. Back then the Great Lakes area was under a layer of ice about 1 mile thick.

Oh hold on... It must have been when UGH figured out how to cook Mastodon over a fire in his cave and all that caused the global warming of 11,000 years ago.

Rate of change.  GO!

3 hours ago, 02sled said:

Don't forget to stop breathing....

The average human exhales about 2.3 pounds of carbon dioxide on an average day. The exact quantity depends on your activity level—a person engaged in vigorous exercise produces up to eight times as much CO₂

How long will it be until some "scientist" points that out to government and everyone has to pay a carbon tax just for breathing. But then there would be a conflict in policies. They want everyone to be more active and fit which means they would exhale more CO₂

What to do... the damned if you do damned if you don't... exercise, be fit and destroy the world by exhaling carbon dioxide at increased levels OR be sedentary, unfit and save the world from climate change.

Go fucking read something. Jesus Christ

scientists never researched naturally occuring gasses...   02sled from freedom sledder must be on to something LMAO

Do you actually think you're the only person to think about natural human and animal co2?   Retard

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I thought of this site when I read that article the other day.  I just knew one of the mouth breathers here would take it and run with it not comprehending an ounce from it.  

Single Dumbest group of people on the web.   Good Fucking god

7 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

'The science is settled' - Catmoron.

Science is never settled.

You're a fucking moron

11 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

You need to grow a brain.  Congrats you got a like from the site moron.

"But it was warm before" - ArcticCrusher

Mic drop

Just now, f7ben said:

What is more unusual .....that a billionaire businessman would have some russian dealings ....or that a politician with a questionable past has 30 or 40 people die mysteriously around her????

Be my guest and continue trying to bite your own tail.  Not my game dummy

22 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Its way beyond your control and simpleton understanding.

You trying to correlate complete horseshit (your post) with fact (Paris agreement and the global climate fund) has nothing to do with my comprehension and entirely to do with how dumb and ignorant you are.   These are irrefutable facts. 

On 2017-6-8 at 3:53 PM, Angry ginger said:

yes international businessmen and lawyers having Russian dealings is just so unusual,  tell me more mr knneecap

 

 

It is in fact pretty unusual.   Not many multinationals in Russia.  They have a tiny economy and are notoriously corrupt, violently so.   It's mostly the Chinese and north Koreans looking for opportunity there.  Not many us or euro companies have an appetite for Russia.

2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Holy shit!  you think the red represents homes?  You don't understand how it works?

Go fuck SeRena you retread.  

Homes?   Wtf are you babbling about?

Lookup what population density means RETARD   LMFAO 

8 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

OH...I'm a fool now.  Ok.  No sweat.  I don't care what somebody says about me that cannot back their own argument.  And, whatever happened to just calling people racists?  I guess since your idiot king is out, that no longer makes sense...as if it ever did.....but look at the results!

 

Not now, always.  Dumb, fool, etc. Just keep up the good work.

Say something racist and I'll call you a racist.   

Great photo.  Red where nobody lives..

9 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

You're correct.  It's not over.  I mean to say nothing will come of it against Trump.  The narrative will last as long as you whiney little losers want it to,.

 

Nice rebuttal!  Was there any part you particularly disagreed with?  Ahhh.....you're a good liberal!  Just call me a "racist" instead.  Hey...SBYLoserness.

 

 

All of it. You're just another fool

You taking some profits today from your day trading? LMAO

18 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Hmmmm.....

I just got done watching it. I got this:  

• Comey was an inept director of the FBI.  He admittedly called himself "weak", "without presence of mind and "being fearful of confrontation" and clearly is an indecisive person.  In that position, all bad traits.  Most of us knew he should have been fired long ago.  
• He also pretty much cleared up any and all obstruction charges against the President and/or his administration.  Unless he lied.  And.in spite of all his flaws that prevented him from doing that job, it sure doesn't make him stupid.  So, I doubt he lied.  
• Comey calling the President a "liar" without any proof but continued to have private meetings with him could lead to him leaving some of his money on the table.  And also hurts his credibility.
• Lynch is a crooked liar....and that is clear.  And that will be interesting to see that go down...and who goes down.  You won't see any coverage on your "sources" though. 
• The Russia "hacking" and affecting the election results is DONE.  And as we know, so is the "collusion" narrative.  ZERO PROOF...and there will not be any.
• "Fake News" took a massive hit....again.
• Rubio finally made himself useful and relevant  So did Feinstein....the twit.  
• Anyone that questioned Comey about Trumps "body language" (Dems) should immediately resign.
• Markets judged favorably...and I made money!

Eh...there was more but I gotta do some market watching.

"THANKS OBAMA!"

 

 

Good fuck you're dumb

26 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said:

Yep.  Stevie wonder could see this market rally coming yesterday.  

Market rally LMAO

14 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Just like you think you can control climate change.  You are giving SR a run for his money.

Your post makes no sense.

you give Momorider a real run for his money, no doubt

1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Spot on.  Like him or not Trump called it.

Lol. Paris has nothing to do with the global climate fund.   Morons

2 hours ago, Zambroski said:

Intellectual and factual reasoning doesn't play in well with religions.  

I'd wager you're a member of Infinitely more cults than I am.