This guy….🤣

wrong thread...

When you look into these deals you find out some other sap taxpayer from another state is paying a portion of his tax money to support the giveaway his state made to attract them.

But yeah Pritzker did it. Maybe he said no more tax breaks….oh yeah he did.

1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

Too stupid to negotiate. Sad.

That phase has come and gone. Civil discourse is over. Fine by me. I know it scares you and your kind though. It should.

Hey, I bet you are this cute in person too, eh?

You guys don't even know who you are defending. Yet you get involved because it was a fan of Trump now. FFS you people are just plain weird.

53 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

That phase has come and gone. Civil discourse is over. Fine by me. I know it scares you and your kind though. It should.

Hey, I bet you are this cute in person too, eh?

And I bet all he does is repeat himself in public like he does here. Like turrets just blurting shit out sounding like Sling Blade

"Both sides"...."Too stupid to negotiate"......"My opinion is the only one that matters"

6 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I could give two fucks what happens in Illinois and have proposed a border wall for decades with our southern neighbor

are you unfamiliar with the term F.I.B. ?

Fibs think minocqua and eagle river are "Northwoods". Pathetic.

6 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Yeah…Pritzker is a superstar….

Major companies that have relocated their corporate headquarters from Illinois during Gov. J.B. Pritzker's administration include Boeing, Caterpillar, Citadel, Tyson Foods, and Morton Salt. Additional prominent corporate departures include TTX Company and Guggenheim Partners. [1, 2, 3]

Chicago Bears leaving Illinois.

54 minutes ago, racer254 said:

You guys don't even know who you are defending. Yet you get involved because it was a fan of Trump now. FFS you people are just plain weird.

It's hilarious as hell.

49 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

And I bet all he does is repeat himself in public like he does here. Like turrets just blurting shit out sounding like Sling Blade

"Both sides"...."Too stupid to negotiate"......"My opinion is the only one that matters"

I bet he's quiet as a fucking church mouse....just like Tools. His "health and safety" dissipation alert light stays partially lit all the time. That's a good thing. Evolution works!

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Zambroski

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

You guys don't even know who you are defending. Yet you get involved because it was a fan of Trump now. FFS you people are just plain weird.

Just a little. Sorry, I have to go out to my rock garden and form out some words, then take a picture of them!

15 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Just a little. Sorry, I have to go out to my rock garden and form out some words, then take a picture of them!

That act is reserved only for when your on vacation having a shitty time.

For the 13th year in a row Chicago ranks #1 for corporations relocating to the area. Can’t beat the demographics and location.

2 hours ago, mnstang said:

Fibs think minocqua and eagle river are "Northwoods". Pathetic.

fuck, try Lake Geneva for 'up North' these days

1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

For the 13th year in a row Chicago ranks #1 for corporations relocating to the area. Can’t beat the demographics and location.

How many fortune 1000? Enough to make up for just these losses alone?

1. Boeing: The aerospace giant moved its global headquarters to Arlington, Virginia.

2. Caterpillar: The heavy equipment manufacturer shifted its headquarters from Deerfield, Illinois, to Irving, Texas .

3. Citadel: The major hedge fund relocated its corporate headquarters and financial operations to Miami, Florida.

4. Tyson Foods: The food company closed its Chicago-area offices and consolidated its headquarters in Springdale, Arkansas.

5. Morton Salt: The iconic food brand moved its corporate headquarters from Chicago to Kansas .

Sounds dreamy…

verview

+10

Illinois imposes one of the highest overall state and local tax burdens in the country, often ranking near the top nationwide and well above the national average. This heavy tax load is primarily driven by the nation's highest property taxes, a steep combined sales tax, and an above-average corporate rate.

10 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

LMAO, the guy is a genuine gullible moron...

so you think Johnsonville isn't leaving Illinois???
because if they are, that headline is correct,,

If it wasn't a shitty place to do business, do you think they would have shut down and got rid of 274 jobs for giggles??
My bet is the building is getting leveled because it's cheaper to demo it, than to pay taxes while trying to sell it for decades because no other business wants to be in that area

Edited July 1Jul 1 by krom

Top notch!😂😵‍💫

Illinois consistently ranks as the worst-funded state for public pensions in the United States, holding the number 50 spot for its funded ratio and the highest unfunded pension debt per capita. The state's government pensions sit at roughly 54% funded, and it carries over $140 billion in total unfunded liabilities. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key details of Illinois' pension crisis include:

• Funded Ratio: Illinois' pension systems are only around 54% funded. For context, this leaves the state in 50th place nationwide, and it remains one of only three states with a funding ratio below 60%. [1, 2]

• Per Capita Debt: The state holds the highest public pension debt per resident in the nation, estimated at nearly $15,804 to $17,500 per person. [1, 2]

• Individual Plan Distress: Three of Illinois' five statewide systems consistently rank among the 10 worst-funded plans nationwide

8 minutes ago, krom said:

so you think Johnsonville isn't leaving Illinois???
because if they are, that headline is correct,,

If it wasn't a shitty place to do business, do you think they would have shut down and got rid of 274 jobs for giggles??
My bet is the building is getting leveled because it's cheaper to demo it, than to pay taxes while trying to sell it for decades because no other business wants to be in that area

is it because of the governor? can you find something, anything citing Pritzker being the reason? and if you're paying attention, I could give two fucks about what happens in Illinois

The Momence facility was built in 1962 and began producing Johnsonville products in 1995. According to Johnsonville, the closing impacts 274 employees, who were notified Monday and will receive continued pay and benefits for 60 days. The company added it would work through additional terms of a separation package over the next couple of weeks.

“We made the difficult decision after evaluating how best to optimize our operations network to address current and future growth,” the spokesperson said in a statement. “The work from this facility will transition to three other production facilities in Wisconsin and Kansas.”

Johnsonville expects to create about 100 new jobs by the end of the third quarter between its Sheboygan Falls, Wis. (20 to 25 new jobs) and Watertown, Wis. (70 to 75 new jobs) facilities.

Johnsonville will transfer equipment and other assets from the Momence facility to different locations. The company plans to demolish the building by the end of 2025.

https://www.porkbusiness.com/news/industry/johnsonville-closes-illinois-facility-momence-packing

now if you want to talk about plant closures and jobs leaving a state... I've actually been to upstate New York and seen all the shuttered factories and mills. also saw the most disgusting bathroom I've ever seen on the entire planet in a gas station near lake Erie. but I actually get around...

4 hours ago, mnstang said:

Fibs think minocqua and eagle river are "Northwoods". Pathetic.

About 90 minutes from eagle river. Dispersed campsite just outside of the national forest. Free camping and no one around. Little bit of relaxation before the big family shindig for the 4th. Doze off to the waterfalls and timberwolves tonight

14 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

About 90 minutes from eagle river. Dispersed campsite just outside of the national forest. Free camping and no one around. Little bit of relaxation before the big family shindig for the 4th. Doze off to the waterfalls and timberwolves tonight

We just call them wolves.

Just now, mnstang said:

We just call them wolves.

I’ll call them hyenas if I fucking want to.

19 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I’ll call them hyenas if I fucking want to.

You seemed to have dropped the "Chicago's leadership is great and big fat, grossly obese men are awesome rulers" argument. I think it's a good move. I just wanted you to know that I noticed.

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Zambroski

1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

About 90 minutes from eagle river. Dispersed campsite just outside of the national forest. Free camping and no one around. Little bit of relaxation before the big family shindig for the 4th. Doze off to the waterfalls and timberwolves tonight

that looks very familiar...

Just now, Crnr2Crnr said:

that looks very familiar...

Foster falls. Near Saxon.

Just now, spin_dry said:

Foster falls. Near Saxon.

yep, check out Saxon and Potato falls as well. if you're along the south shore the falls on the Black and Presque flowing into lake Superior are spectacular

Just now, Crnr2Crnr said:

yep, check out Saxon and Potato falls as well. if you're along the south shore the falls on the Black and Presque flowing into lake Superior are spectacular

Heading to the family lake home come sunrise. I’ll keep it in mind for next time.

4 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Heading to the family lake home come sunrise. I’ll keep it in mind for next time.

I know a lot of them

edit, these are handy

https://gowaterfalling.com/waterfalls/maps/statemichigan.shtml

https://gowaterfalling.com/

Edited July 2Jul 2 by Crnr2Crnr