X2700 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Going be to be a tough road for cat! other brands have an established product line and buyers. Way market is right now has to be tough to stick bunch of money into products that are not even out yet. Polaris has its quirks but most are easily fixed and it’s tough to beat a sportsman!! My 1000 may not be as fun as riding my sled but it’s damn close!! someone needs to put the green glasses away!!! Quote
krom Posted November 1 Posted November 1 16 hours ago, racinfarmer said: Their entire dirt line needs a refresh and they should be working on either a Gen 2 Catalyst or a Catalyst replacement, and probably a refreshed motor or two for the snow product. I think jimwit forgets how old the 600 sled engine is 16 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: Brand new sled. Lighter than anything. Two new motors in the snow side. 600 ATV is the best motor I have EVER ran on the dirt side. You are not only a FUCKING IDIOT, but have no clue on valedidity testing. 858 is faster than the 9 R. valedidity?? 600 atv engine isn't bad, but the oil filter location, air filter access, and head studs aren't good. You would think with as many engineers as you claim they have, it would have been better though, considering its the only ATV they've released in 10 years. They build 1 atv, 1 N/A sport SXS, and 1 utility SXS. which 2 new engines? Is the guy who told you its faster than the 9R the same guy who told you yamaha wasn't going anywhere, and their relationship was solid? Or is it the guy who told you the 858 was going to be an 870? Quote
p51mstg Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Can everyone please go out and buy a new Polaris out of dealer inventory? The share price of my Polaris stock is slipping...... Quote
AK440 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 7 minutes ago, p51mstg said: Can everyone please go out and buy a new Polaris out of dealer inventory? The share price of my Polaris stock is slipping...... Make sure to refuse any discounts or markdowns and pay over MSRP. @mnstang says it’s not right to take advantage of any sale prices as he liked getting fucked in the ass with COVID mark ups and supply chain dealer pricing adjustments. 1 Quote
Not greg b Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) 10 minutes ago, p51mstg said: Can everyone please go out and buy a new Polaris out of dealer inventory? The share price of my Polaris stock is slipping...... Dad just picked up his carry over assault he got a deal on. Gonna go pair my phone with it now so I can track it. Edited November 1 by Not greg b 1 Quote
racinfarmer Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tripleflipper said: With the average age of sledders increasing every year, most kids growing up have very little interest in this sport, the cost of ownership increasing every year, low snow seasons for many regions, there is more of a chance AC goes the way of the dodo bird. In today's environment 3 players is to many. I recall when Poo dumped the PWC line their share value went up, could even happen for Textron. Just my opinion I'll give an example. Lets say you want to get your kid a semi-modern sled to see if they are interested, learn on, etc. You decide a Sno Pro 500 or a ZR4000 would be a good option for them. You can find them for $3k fairly easy in decent shape. Both machines are 1 part away from being mechanically totaled because important parts are NLA. How many here want to drop $8-9-10k on a Blast or Evo 550 or Neo to find out if your kid is actually interested in riding? It can make it challenging to get the next gen into riding. Edited November 1 by racinfarmer 2 Quote
airflite1 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 19 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: I'll give an example. Lets say you want to get your kid a semi-modern sled to see if they are interested, learn on, etc. You decide a Sno Pro 500 or a ZR4000 would be a good option for them. You can find them for $3k fairly easy in decent shape. Both machines are 1 part away from being mechanically totaled because important parts are NLA. How many here want to drop $8-9-10k on a Blast or Evo 550 or Neo to find out if your kid is actually interested in riding? It can make it challenging to get the next gen into riding. I'm seeing more of old wedges getting ridden, with groomed trails and the fact they're pretty reliable with an abundance of parts available it kinda makes sense. 1 Quote
Zambroski Posted November 1 Posted November 1 16 minutes ago, airflite1 said: I'm seeing more of old wedges getting ridden, with groomed trails and the fact they're pretty reliable with an abundance of parts available it kinda makes sense. It really kinda does at this point. Quote
X2700 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Can get into pro ride chassis for 2-5k. tons of parts out there for them!! Quote
mnstang Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 hour ago, airflite1 said: I'm seeing more of old wedges getting ridden, with groomed trails and the fact they're pretty reliable with an abundance of parts available it kinda makes sense. All the old ass draggers are just as capable and more fun. Handle much better. With the way the trails are. And they get more attention. Quote
airflite1 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 21 minutes ago, mnstang said: All the old ass draggers are just as capable and more fun. Handle much better. With the way the trails are. And they get more attention. Do you have a JagZ for me? Quote
airflite1 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 10 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: Phazer > Jag JagZ - XCF > Phazer Quote
mnstang Posted November 2 Posted November 2 18 minutes ago, airflite1 said: Do you have a JagZ for me? For a day I do! Any time 11 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: Phazer > Jag Quote
racinfarmer Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, airflite1 said: JagZ - XCF > Phazer No, just no. 7 minutes ago, mnstang said: For a day I do! Any time #PhazerLyfe 6 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Super jag I'll let that one slide. One can pick up the whores like Charlie Sheen on one of those! Edited November 2 by racinfarmer Quote
Not greg b Posted November 2 Posted November 2 1 hour ago, racinfarmer said: No, just no. #PhazerLyfe I'll let that one slide. One can pick up the whores like Charlie Sheen on one of those! You can pick up multiple ones with the long ass seat on it. Quote
Not greg b Posted November 2 Posted November 2 Also checked out the new vr1 dad brought home. Build quality/fit is better than the catalyst, seat is wider and the rider positions are similar. I think the catalyst will have better wind protection. The storage compartments under the seat and behind gauge are nice. The 7s is pretty cool, plays a quick movie when you start the sled up. Quote
Sled_Hed Posted November 2 Posted November 2 33 minutes ago, Not greg b said: You can pick up multiple ones with the long ass seat on it. And throw one in the basket. Quote
Not greg b Posted November 2 Posted November 2 2 minutes ago, Sled_Hed said: And throw one in the basket. The basket on ours folds down so I could have a stripper pole with a stage ready to go. 1 Quote
Sled_Hed Posted November 2 Posted November 2 2 minutes ago, Not greg b said: The basket on ours folds down so I could have a stripper pole with a stage ready to go. I have the monster box just in case 🤣. Quote
mnstang Posted November 2 Posted November 2 3 minutes ago, Sled_Hed said: I have the monster box just in case 🤣. I see you have the tunnel flares for keeping the engine cooler. NICE 1 Quote
Not greg b Posted November 2 Posted November 2 9 minutes ago, Sled_Hed said: I have the monster box just in case 🤣. That is a Minnesota ice fishing special there Quote
Sled_Hed Posted November 2 Posted November 2 7 hours ago, mnstang said: I see you have the tunnel flares for keeping the engine cooler. NICE 7 hours ago, Not greg b said: That is a Minnesota ice fishing special there It does the job. Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 2 Author Posted November 2 (edited) 14 hours ago, racinfarmer said: I'll give an example. Lets say you want to get your kid a semi-modern sled to see if they are interested, learn on, etc. You decide a Sno Pro 500 or a ZR4000 would be a good option for them. You can find them for $3k fairly easy in decent shape. Both machines are 1 part away from being mechanically totaled because important parts are NLA. How many here want to drop $8-9-10k on a Blast or Evo 550 or Neo to find out if your kid is actually interested in riding? It can make it challenging to get the next gen into riding. SP5 needs a $15 jackshaft bearing here and there... what else really goes wrong with them because I've yet to find out? The crazy $ market imo the past five years has been the 120/200 kids sleds. Blast or Neo in concept isn't a horrible idea for starter sleds, but for the price of one... I'd pick up another SP5 and a ZR4k would be great if the manus could bring back a lightweight simple 440 fanner... but emissions. Doo sells an 85hp non power valve 600 for $9900 that runs on 87 octane. A SP5 in 2010 had an $8300 MSRP. Adjusted for inflation the Doo 600 is a fair price... until you put any accessories on it. https://ski-doo.brp.com/us/en/models/trail/mxz.html#sport?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwm5e5BhCWARIsANwm06jgHpq8scrz1gDFsVqZXTltlhCLxtfMGQm7QDT34XpVMwEAERBqpVEaAhSYEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#sport here's 27 brand new 2024's for around $8K https://www.snowmobiletrader.com/New-2024-Ski-Doo-Mx-Z-Sport/snowmobiles-for-sale?type=Snowmobile|301857&make=Ski-Doo|326747&model=MX Z SPORT|764860527&condition=N&year=2024&zip=54403&radius=10000 Edited November 2 by Crnr2Crnr Quote
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