Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 8, 2023 I think this is a stupid idea, but Im all for letting them write student loans off on their taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_sbc.pdf Why fuck up Spins feelings on the subject with facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I about can’t take this fucking state anymore , just run by filth and morons voting for them 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 42 minutes ago, f7ben said: I about can’t take this fucking state anymore , just run by filth and morons voting for them It's fucking mind numbing how people will step on the head of an American to give a wet back a step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted June 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 8, 2023 They are ILLEGAL.....send them back to where they came from.....not hand out money or education.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Snake said: It's fucking mind numbing how people will step on the head of an American to give a wet back a step up. Awe. Poor baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Snake said: It's fucking mind numbing how people will step on the head of an American to give a wet back a step up. I have compassion for people , I want to help people …..this is lunacy. I’m gonna fork out 50-60-80k or more so my kid can get an education and I don’t have a pot to piss in. I’m taxed to death and will still pay. This fucking state is too far gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 All this bullshit. Education is too expensive, but the cure isn't to pay for it but instead focus on how to make it more affordable. This government bandaid shit has to stop. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 9, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 14 hours ago, racinfarmer said: Different interest rates for different degrees too. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 12 hours ago, f7ben said: I have compassion for people , I want to help people …..this is lunacy. I’m gonna fork out 50-60-80k or more so my kid can get an education and I don’t have a pot to piss in. I’m taxed to death and will still pay. This fucking state is too far gone. Exactly. This state just came off an $18B surplus, spent ALL of it, and then tacked on an ADDITIONAL $4B in new spending, that will need to be funded for years. All the while, having lost more than $1.6B in adjusted net income state wide, compared to an equally located state WI, who only lost $65M. People are slowly leaving, it's not sustainable. They have to have some way to attract people here that will keep them in power. So this is just another example of how they are accomplishing that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Everyone take heed. These policies are proposed by DEMOCRATS Voting for a democrat will get these policies. Being an independent and voting for someone that has no chance will get these policies. Not voting will get these policies. There is only one way to vote to stop this. Unfortunately, it's a 2 party system right now, so sometimes you need to vote for the best of the worst, so that the absolute worst don't get in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, racer254 said: Everyone take heed. These policies are proposed by DEMOCRATS Voting for a democrat will get these policies. Being an independent and voting for someone that has no chance will get these policies. Not voting will get these policies. There is only one way to vote to stop this. Unfortunately, it's a 2 party system right now, so sometimes you need to vote for the best of the worst, so that the absolute worst don't get in charge. Pretty easy to figure out. Get Trump out of there and it's an easy win for a Republican. Leave him in and you get Democrats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Pretty easy to figure out. Get Trump out of there and it's an easy win for a Republican. Leave him in and you get Democrats. That is being caused by people like you. Conservatives so stuck on ideal, that they lose the battle. The majority will understand if he gets the nomination that they will vote for him. You would rather have high taxes, high inflation, high gas prices, student debt relief, open borders, more drugs, defund the police, more crime, etc? Edited June 9, 2023 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, racer254 said: That is being caused by people like you. The majority will understand if he gets the nomination that they will vote for him. You would rather have high taxes, high inflation, high gas prices, student debt relief, open borders, more drugs, defund the police, more crime, etc? Of course not. But if it means Trump loses so be it. Edited June 9, 2023 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Mag6240 said: Exactly. This state just came off an $18B surplus, spent ALL of it, and then tacked on an ADDITIONAL $4B in new spending, that will need to be funded for years. All the while, having lost more than $1.6B in adjusted net income state wide, compared to an equally located state WI, who only lost $65M. People are slowly leaving, it's not sustainable. They have to have some way to attract people here that will keep them in power. So this is just another example of how they are accomplishing that. How many times do we have to say it ... we're the California of the Midwest. And that's not a good thing! The democratic leadership of this state is some of the worst in the country. It's embarrassing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Of course not. But if it means Trump loses so be it. So stuck on small shit that you miss the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 9, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Pretty easy to figure out. Get Trump out of there and it's an easy win for a Republican. Leave him in and you get Democrats. No its not. Its a false notion Trump created the hard left today. That was happening long before he ran. Its the natural progression of a good percentage of citizens in any country. I want more and someone else should pay for it. Edited June 9, 2023 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: No its not. Its a false notion Trump created the hard left today. That was happening long before he ran. Its the natural progression of a good percentage of citizens in any country. I want more and someone else should pay for it. Exactly - this hard left agenda started with Obama, and only got worse when Hillary lost to Trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: No its not. Its a false notion Trump created the hard left today. Its the natural progression of a good percentage of citizens in any country. It's not the left or right that wins elections. It's the independents. Independents don't like Trump. Edited June 9, 2023 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Steve753 said: It's not the left or right that wins elections. It's the independents. Independents don't like Trump. I don't know where you are getting this from, but trump GAINED independents from 2016 to 2020. The left keeps pushing that false narrative trying to use the group mentality to sway the independent vote. It seems to work on people who "believe" they vote independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: I don't know where you are getting this from, but trump GAINED independents from 2016 to 2020. The left keeps pushing that false narrative trying to use the group mentality to sway the independent vote. It seems to work on people who "believe" they vote independent. Well he lost by 7 million votes. So there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 9, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Steve753 said: It's not the left or right that wins elections. It's the independents. Independents don't like Trump. Want to see some numbers that don't make sense and no I'm not making any election rigging claims just using common sense. Breaking the election down to the most basic demographics. Men and women. Trump supposedly lost 2% of the male vote yet Biden gained 7%. Trump gained 5% of the woman vote and Biden gained 1%. Women made up 52% of the electorate. Not sure how some of those numbers make sense without significant 3rd party candidates which neither year had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 9, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, racer254 said: I don't know where you are getting this from, but trump GAINED independents from 2016 to 2020. The left keeps pushing that false narrative trying to use the group mentality to sway the independent vote. It seems to work on people who "believe" they vote independent. I don't believe he did. He did see gains in all 3 of the main minority groups blacks, hispanics and asians which again is just one of many anomalies of the 2020 election. At least according to Pew not sure how Biden gains 10% of independents while Trump also gains maintains the exact %. Edited June 9, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, Highmark said: I don't believe he did. He didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Well he lost by 7 million votes. So there's that. Electoral votes win POTUS election He lost by the 50,000 votes that effectively changed the electoral votes of 3 states Stop believing the narrative from the left as then you would say Hillary won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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