Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SkisNH said: 187,000 fucking people on the voter rolls that aren't eligible voters you dumb fuck...PA votes have been darn near 50/50 doesn't take many to sway an election... Mail in voting isn't verified....do you even know the difference between mail in voting and true absentee ballots? Mail in is ripe with fraud and you know it. Did they vote and were their votes counted? Again - you’re an ignorant moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 56 minutes ago, snoughnut said: If Democrat voters had to take an IQ test to vote most would not meet the minimum requirement, electing Biden is a perfect example of how stupid you and your ilk are. Dems are smarter and more educated than Repugs as a whole. That’s a fact. The Turd Herder gets again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Correct…absentee requires the voter to request a ballot and it’s verified by signature and other ways when returned. Mail in ballots are sent without request and not subject to the same level of verification. That’s not correct. If the mail in ballot is returned it’s verified and checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Correct…absentee requires the voter to request a ballot and it’s verified by signature and other ways when returned. Mail in ballots are sent without request and not subject to the same level of verification. Yep, and that is why mail in ballots are ripe for fraud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Dems are smarter and more educated than Repugs as a whole. That’s a fact. The Turd Herder gets again. Some of the dumbest people I've ever witnessed are Democrats hands down. Here's something that will confuse the hell out of you. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: 187,000 fucking people on the voter rolls that aren't eligible voters you dumb fuck...PA votes have been darn near 50/50 doesn't take many to sway an election... Mail in voting isn't verified....do you even know the difference between mail in voting and true absentee ballots? Mail in is ripe with fraud and you know it. I’m sure it varies by state but since you seem to be making a case for Pennsylvania it’s worth point out that both absentee (reason listed) and mail-in (no reason listed) ballots seem to be subject to the same level of scrutiny in terms of ID requirements. Identification for Mail Voting In order to apply for an absentee or mail-in ballot, you must supply proof of identification. Uniformed and overseas citizens and voters who qualify under the Voting Accessibility for the Elderly and Handicapped ACT do not need to show ID. All other voters must use one of the following options. Option 1 Include one of these ID numbers on your absentee or mail-in ballot form: Current and valid Pennsylvania driver's license PennDOT photo ID card Option 2 If you don't have one of the documents listed under option 1, you can include the last 4 digits of your Social Security number on your absentee or mail-in ballot form. Option 3 If you don't have one of the documents listed under option 1 or a Social Security number, you can provide a photocopy of one of the following IDs with your absentee or mail-in ballot application. The photocopy must show name, a photo, and an expiration date that is current. U.S. Passport U.S. Military ID (active duty and retired military ID may designate an expiration date that is indefinite). Military dependents' ID must contain a current expiration date. Employee photo identification issued by Federal, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania county, or Pennsylvania municipal government. Photo identification issued by an accredited Pennsylvania public or private institution of higher learning. Photo identification issued by a Pennsylvania care facility, including long-term care facilities, assisted living residences and personal care homes. https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Stating it is not possible to have a remote ballot program that is as secure as an in person is absurd. I am not saying the implementation is good now, but instead of focusing on removing voters from one side why not focus on making the process so that it is secure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: That’s not correct. If the mail in ballot is returned it’s verified and checked. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/ballots-can-t-be-tossed-out-over-voter-signature-court-n1244585 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, SkisNH said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/ballots-can-t-be-tossed-out-over-voter-signature-court-n1244585 In the Nov. 3 presidential election, more than 2.9 million voters in Pennsylvania have requested mail-in ballots, more than 10 times the number in 2016′s presidential election and many of them from people who have never voted by mail before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, racer254 said: In the Nov. 3 presidential election, more than 2.9 million voters in Pennsylvania have requested mail-in ballots, more than 10 times the number in 2016′s presidential election and many of them from people who have never voted by mail before. And now knowing what the requirements are to get a mail in ballot in PA from Plissken above, your thoughts? Think that would be easy to mass produce fake requests given those requirements, all being mail to separate addresses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, akvanden said: And now knowing what the requirements are to get a mail in ballot in PA from Plissken above, your thoughts? Think that would be easy to mass produce fake requests given those requirements, all being mail to separate addresses? SS number, DL Number or PennDOT ID number? You don't think they can get lists of those? They mail out campaign flyers every day. This wasn't just some fly by night effort. It was a concentrated effort done many different ways. They had gatherings with many people being given mail-in ballots here in Wisconsin, all they had to do was collect them later and do what they wanted to with them. it's not rocket science, but it does take a little effort. If they can put together something like cross-fire hurricane with the fbi, doj etc, I am sure they can get all the numbers they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, racer254 said: SS number, DL Number or PennDOT ID number? You don't think they can get lists of those? They mail out campaign flyers every day. This wasn't just some fly by night effort. Let’s go with your assumption they would be easy to get. Are you then going to have each ballot individually mailed to the addresses associated with those IDs? Have someone standing at each individual mailbox to intercept them? And then hope that person doesn’t cast a paper ballot therefore casting two votes by the same person? 41 minutes ago, racer254 said: It was a concentrated effort done many different ways What is this concentrated effort that you speak of? Link? Edited May 31, 2023 by akvanden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, akvanden said: Let’s go with your assumption they would be easy to get. Are you then going to have each ballot individually mailed to the addresses associated with those IDs? Have someone standing at each individual mailbox to intercept them? And then hope that person doesn’t cast a paper ballot therefore casting two votes by the same person? What is this concentrated effort that you speak of? Link? They were able to collect thousands of these at get out the vote events. Then they just put them in drop boxes. Their is nothing that actually proved where they were mailed from. There were also poll workers and inside people involved. This is why we can't have voting that lasts weeks on end. No more mail in ballots. And everyone who was involved knew that there is absolutely no way to prove who those ballots voted for, and that it would be hard to get any of them thrown out. That is why SkisNH posted the link he did. You basically have to catch it before it happens or it works like planned. Edited May 31, 2023 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 48 minutes ago, racer254 said: They were able to collect thousands of these at get out the vote events. Collecting them is completely different than fraudulently requesting them with the illegally obtained state IDs that you allege. Did you want to explain how that process would work after you illegally come into possession of these IDs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 31, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 54 minutes ago, akvanden said: Collecting them is completely different than fraudulently requesting them with the illegally obtained state IDs that you allege. Did you want to explain how that process would work after you illegally come into possession of these IDs? I’d like to hear this as well.👍🏼🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, racer254 said: SS number, DL Number or PennDOT ID number? You don't think they can get lists of those? They mail out campaign flyers every day. This wasn't just some fly by night effort. It was a concentrated effort done many different ways. They had gatherings with many people being given mail-in ballots here in Wisconsin, all they had to do was collect them later and do what they wanted to with them. it's not rocket science, but it does take a little effort. If they can put together something like cross-fire hurricane with the fbi, doj etc, I am sure they can get all the numbers they need. You’re dumb. Keep searching for license plates and STFU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, SnowRider said: You’re dumb. Keep searching for license plates and STFU Are you ever a sassy little bitch when you’re behind a keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, akvanden said: Collecting them is completely different than fraudulently requesting them with the illegally obtained state IDs that you allege. Did you want to explain how that process would work after you illegally come into possession of these IDs? What part of the process are you misunderstanding? Once you get the information you need, you fill out the ballot and put it in a drop box. 54 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I’d like to hear this as well.👍🏼🤔 How many different ways do you need to hear before you acknowledge the simple fact that election fraud is happening? You will never be satisfied and will constantly move the question so you can continue to deny the simple fact that it is happening. Go watch 2000 mules, then go watch other documentaries regarding election fraud. Go watch the documentary regarding the 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack. And now add both the COVID and 2000 mules documentary and put them together. I have listed this before but it just falls on deaf ears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack A group of prominent followers of Rajneesh (later known as Osho) led by Ma Anand Sheela had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 31, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, akvanden said: Collecting them is completely different than fraudulently requesting them with the illegally obtained state IDs that you allege. Did you want to explain how that process would work after you illegally come into possession of these IDs? 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: What part of the process are you misunderstanding? Once you get the information you need, you fill out the ballot and put it in a drop box. How many different ways do you need to hear before you acknowledge the simple fact that election fraud is happening? You will never be satisfied and will constantly move the question so you can continue to deny the simple fact that it is happening. Go watch 2000 mules, then go watch other documentaries regarding election fraud. Go watch the documentary regarding the 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack. And now add both the COVID and 2000 mules documentary and put them together. I have listed this before but it just falls on deaf ears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack A group of prominent followers of Rajneesh (later known as Osho) led by Ma Anand Sheela had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections Just explain it without using a wiki link from something that happened in 1984. BTW there is a small level of fraud in every election but not to the levels you claim yet can’t explain or prove. Edited May 31, 2023 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: What part of the process are you misunderstanding? Once you get the information you need, you fill out the ballot and put it in a drop box. How many different ways do you need to hear before you acknowledge the simple fact that election fraud is happening? You will never be satisfied and will constantly move the question so you can continue to deny the simple fact that it is happening. Go watch 2000 mules, then go watch other documentaries regarding election fraud. Go watch the documentary regarding the 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack. And now add both the COVID and 2000 mules documentary and put them together. I have listed this before but it just falls on deaf ears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack A group of prominent followers of Rajneesh (later known as Osho) led by Ma Anand Sheela had hoped to incapacitate the voting population of the city so that their own candidates would win the 1984 Wasco County elections Prove it. Election fraud is not happening. Orange man’s own Chris Krebs said 2020 was the most secure election possible. Now what? You’re peddling orange man’s lies because you’re a moron just like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Just explain it without using a wiki link from something that happened in 1984. BTW there is a small level of fraud in every election but not to the levels you claim yet can’t explain or prove. I just did. Collecting a bunch of mail in ballots from a political event is one of the ways the level of fraud you are wondering about can happen. Basically they are using unsecure drop boxes where ballots can be manipulated. Not sure why you keep wanting more explanation. Go through and just read the multiple posts regarding election fraud in this forum. There are plenty of examples and added all up could easily get to the 50K number of votes that it took to change this election. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 31, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: I just did. Collecting a bunch of mail in ballots from a political event is one of the ways the level of fraud you are wondering about can happen. Basically they are using unsecure drop boxes where ballots can be manipulated. Not sure why you keep wanting more explanation. Go through and just read the multiple posts regarding election fraud in this forum. There are plenty of examples and added all up could easily get to the 50K number of votes that it took to change this election. Give us a step by step of the manipulation . You're regurgitating right wing lies and misinformation. You’re the best sheep in the bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, racer254 said: What part of the process are you misunderstanding? Once you get the information you need, you fill out the ballot and put it in a drop box. You’re completely jumping to the last part. You have a list of 10,000 licenses you illegally obtained. You go online and request mail in ballots one by one. Where are you having these all mailed to so that you can fill it out? You can’t mail it all to one address. Are you mailing them to the actual address listed on the ID then stealing them one by one from each persons mailbox? What happens if that person votes in person, now that person has voted twice. Details please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 hours ago, akvanden said: What is this concentrated effort that you speak of? Link? The concentrated effort is he didn't like the result so he is concentrating on making shit up to try to believe his ideal is what others want. Delusional at best. 4 hours ago, racer254 said: They were able to collect thousands of these at get out the vote events. Then they just put them in drop boxes. Their is nothing that actually proved where they were mailed from. There were also poll workers and inside people involved. This is why we can't have voting that lasts weeks on end. No more mail in ballots. Who is "they". For fuck sakes, believing there is a conspiracy that you know about that must have happened, but you know of no one who was in on it? Sounds legit... 4 hours ago, racer254 said: And everyone who was involved knew that there is absolutely no way to prove who those ballots voted for, and that it would be hard to get any of them thrown out. That is why SkisNH posted the link he did. You basically have to catch it before it happens or it works like planned. Ooo, now you are adding "everyone". Of course, they all knew and did exactly what they could without being exposed. Even the ultra-left media would LOVE to expose this if they could. Would make that reporter famous, yet dead air outside of conspiracy fools believing in nonsense. 1 hour ago, racer254 said: How many different ways do you need to hear before you acknowledge the simple fact that election fraud is happening? Derp, no one said there wasn't fraud. You claim the election was rigged and that is completely different than fraud. Stop mixing things up and focus on the actual rigging and that process. The whole world would love to be enlightened, but all realize you have no clue as fundamentally it isn't possible to pull off. Both sides would love to do it, but can't figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 8 hours ago, SnowRider said: That’s not correct. If the mail in ballot is returned it’s verified and checked. Absentee and mail ins are treated the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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