As Sea Levels Rise, the East Coast Is Also Sinking

[Steve753]

1 minute ago, Mag6240 said:

But it works, right?

Sometimes!

[Highmark]

Simply another way of making an excuse that sea level isn't changing because of climate.   

 

 

 

[Catalina]

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

[Skidooski]

Trust the science!!!!1111  

[Jerry 976]

15 hours ago, Deephaven said:

Regardless of the topic at hand...you are so easily confused.  Go look how many times the rock was moved.

 

That meme was just a Joke/Lie -  

Google  - - https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-plymouth-rock-sea-level-924629756946

 

CLAIM: A photo of Plymouth Rock sitting in a small amount of water proves that sea levels have not risen significantly over the last 402 years due to climate change.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Plymouth Rock has not remained in its original location over the centuries, and sea level rise has been well-documented in the surrounding region, experts say. In addition, the photo also does not take account of regular tidal fluctuations.

THE FACTS: Social media users are sharing a photo of Plymouth Rock, the Massachusetts landmark that symbolizes the arrival of pilgrims in 1620, to claim that sea levels have not risen.

The Instagram post features a photo of Plymouth Rock mostly exposed at water level along with the text, “‘Climate change’” and “Plymouth Rock still at sea level after 402 years.” The post was liked more than 3,900 times.

But the photo is being misrepresented, experts say. The rock has been broken, split, and relocated multiple times over the past two and a half centuries, Donna D. Curtin, executive director of the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth, wrote in an email to The Associated Press. Such instances include the rock possibly being raised from its original location in 1749 due to the construction of a wharf, the removal of its top portion in 1774, and later its excavation and relocation onto the shoreline in 1920, she noted.

“This claim is based on the incorrect assumption that Plymouth Rock has been in the same location for 402 years. That is not the case,” Curtin wrote. “It is unquestionably not in the exact same spot as it was 402 years ago.”

The rock is regularly underwater at high tide in its present location underneath a granite portico built in 1921, Curtin noted.

The photo also provides no evidence of sea level change over time because it does not reflect the ebb and flow of tides that change depending on the time of day, Brian Yellen, a research assistant professor in the University of Massachusetts, Amherst’s department of earth, geographic, and climate sciences, told the AP. Such a snapshot does not illustrate long-term sea level changes.

“The post in and of itself doesn’t really have any information to help you assess sea level rise,” Yellen said. “The tide range in Plymouth is close to 10 feet.”

Sea levels in the Boston area, just north of Plymouth, have risen just over a foot in the last century, Yellen noted. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, sea levels in Boston have risen by 2.89 millimeters per year. Since 1880, the average global sea level has risen 8 to 9 inches, or 203 to 228 millimeters, according to NOAA.

[sleepybrew]

15 hours ago, spin_dry said:

I wouldn’t miss the east coast for a second. 

you been to upstate ny?

[Mag6240]

1 hour ago, Catalina said:

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

It’s the simple fact that more people live in these places being affected, seems like a poor decision, but that’s just me.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Mag6240

[Mainecat]

2 hours ago, Catalina said:

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

There’s a huge difference in tides.

[Steve753]

3 hours ago, Catalina said:

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

They only care about cities that are democrat!

[steve from amherst]

2 hours ago, Mainecat said:

There’s a huge difference in tides.

Bigtime

[SkisNH]

16 hours ago, Catalina said:

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

look at the tide differences between newfoundland and Florida.  It's a combination of gravitational pull and distance between the land mass. In short the ocean isn't level. 

[toslow]

13 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

look at the tide differences between newfoundland and Florida.  It's a combination of gravitational pull and distance between the land mass. In short the ocean isn't level. 

I grew up watching the tide’s raise 52ft, sometimes 54ft on high tide. Seen sometime even higher. Science can get stuffed. I call bullshit on their study and its findings 

Science is the new political party 

[SkisNH]

1 minute ago, toslow said:

I grew up watching the tide’s raise 52ft, sometimes 54ft on high tide. Seen sometime even higher. Science can get stuffed. I call bullshit on their study and its findings 

Science is the new political party 

I wasn't defending global warming...I was correcting the statement that the ocean finds its own level. 

[Catalina]

Sure, tides, wind and storms have an effect. But I would think that if you took the average level at any one point, it would be quite consistent. 

Tides rise and fall different amounts depending on a number of circumstances. There are almost no tides in places like Aruba, near the equator. The fjords in places like Norway (I think that's where they are) see much higher low and high tides, same for parts of the coast of Canada. Often, the places with the large surges are inlets, somewhat funnel shaped. Lots of water is pushed into a narrow space, causing a larger rise and fall with the tides. But, if you were to go just a few miles offshore, I believe the tidal differences are much less. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Catalina

[Plissken]

22 hours ago, Catalina said:

Seems to me that sea level in Newfoundland, or Maine should be the same a sea level in Florida. Water seeks it's own level, and there should not be any difference up and down the coast, except for tides and storms. 

I struggle to understand how they can tell us that the rise only effects the cities. 

 

5 hours ago, SkisNH said:

I wasn't defending global warming...I was correcting the statement that the ocean finds its own level. 

To be expand on that, the Earth is an oblate spheroid with inconsistent densities which leads to un-uniform gravitational forces which leads to inconsistent sea levels between different locations.  
 

 

[Jerry 976]

 But the Earth is Flat

 

 

 

[Mag6240]

So this 1 or 2mm sink they are talking about, that has nothing to do with continents shifting and moving all due to forces COMPLETELY out of the control of man, correct?  

[HSR]

23 hours ago, Mainecat said:

There’s a huge difference in tides.

 

21 hours ago, steve from amherst said:

Bigtime

Bay of Fundy is amazing to see the tides come and go, just incredible.

[Steve753]

6 minutes ago, Mag6240 said:

So this 1 or 2mm sink they are talking about, that has nothing to do with continents shifting and moving all due to forces COMPLETELY out of the control of man, correct?  

There's absolutely no science involved in climate climate. It's about playing with emotional liberals minds and dollar signs.

Edited May 4, 2023 by Steve753

[Jerry 976]

1 hour ago, Steve753 said:

There's absolutely no science involved in climate climate. It's about playing with emotional liberals minds and dollar signs.

Uncle Steve what's climate climate????

 

[Steve753]

1 hour ago, Steve753 said:

There's absolutely no science involved in climate change. It's about playing with emotional liberals minds and dollar signs.

Fixed @Jerry 976

🤓

Edited May 4, 2023 by Steve753

[SkisNH]

2 hours ago, HSR said:

 

Bay of Fundy is amazing to see the tides come and go, just incredible.

When I was there, I insisted we go see the tidal bore...we drove an hour plus on Thanksgiving weekend and stood in a very cold drizzle to see a ripple come up the river. Literal a tidal bored 😴 

[HSR]

2 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

When I was there, I insisted we go see the tidal bore...we drove an hour plus on Thanksgiving weekend and stood in a very cold drizzle to see a ripple come up the river. Literal a tidal bored 😴 

They have the ONLY tidal generation station in NA. It's supercool , tide comes in , fills reservoir, tide goes out through the turbines when they release it.

Literally left our hotel in Wolfville with a giant grass bay in front of us only to return to boats in the same spots. Some places have the peak high and low times posted for tourists.

[toslow]

17 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

When I was there, I insisted we go see the tidal bore...we drove an hour plus on Thanksgiving weekend and stood in a very cold drizzle to see a ripple come up the river. Literal a tidal bored 😴 

Should have booked a ride in a zodiac 

What area was you in?

different views from different areas on the river 

Edited May 4, 2023 by toslow

[Sal Rosenberg]

On 5/2/2023 at 10:50 PM, spin_dry said:

I wouldn’t miss the east coast for a second. 

Would be kinda hard too while passed out face down in a laptop at 2 30 in the morning in your week old underwear surrounded by empty booze bottles , an overflowing ashtray , a stack of utility disconnect notices,  some old porno mags and FS still on the screen