Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 $14B in asset seized https://www.axios.com/ted-cruz-introduces-el-chapo-act-to-pay-for-the-wall-2378374826.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Brilliant conservative solution to pay bills. STEAL the money. How much you wanna bet they go after the legal pot stores in states and get the money? This is a bad door to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard. 100% for over two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard. Government coffers, even if you are innocent, you still have to fight to get it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: where does the seized money usually go? taking funds from somewhere else is not magically paying for a wall, momoretard. Many states are already doing this. They will let the drugs flow in, let them be sold and then hijack the money when it is shipped out. New laws allow them to keep seized money. Has nothing to do with public safety and the prevention of drug abuse, its all about the cash... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, racinfarmer said: Government coffers, even if you are innocent, you still have to fight to get it back. right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Many states are already doing this. They will let the drugs flow in, let them be sold and then hijack the money when it is shipped out. New laws allow them to keep seized money. Has nothing to do with public safety and the prevention of drug abuse, its all about the cash... yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this. that is how a debt based economy works on every level ......every single portion of our economy is driven by robbing peter to pay paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: that is how a debt based economy works on every level ......every single portion of our economy is driven by robbing peter to pay paul true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: right. so it's essentially robbing peter to pay paul. yet momo cannot see this. Yah me and Cruz wrote the law great idea eh Snot???? Need I post it again for over two fucking years about everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 this will be trump's strategy to tell everyone mexico is paying the for the wall. trumpsters like momo will believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: this will be trump's strategy to tell everyone mexico is paying the for the wall. trumpsters like momo will believe him. for over 2 years about everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ebsell said: So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile It ain't the Government paying for it is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Ebsell said: It ain't the Government paying for it is it. Government generates no money its always rate payers money you imbecile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Ebsell said: So criminals are paying for the wall and not Mexico. I got no problem with that. Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Government generates no money its always rate payers money you imbecile The President of Mexico said he wasn't paying for no wall. Guess he was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ebsell said: It ain't the Government paying for it is it. Its the users who are paying for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Momorider said: Mexican criminals so both Lobster Fucker you stupid imbecile Not quite as stupid as you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? bravo sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? The US Government is going to do whatever it wants. Same as always, after all they are basically the biggest crime syndicate in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: Thats how they are packaging it up to sell to the unwashed masses. Great idea right? But in reality it is theft. If it was found that a pharmaceutical company was involved in pushing prescription narcotics thru street dealers do you think the govt would take all of the companies assets? One can argue that the govt is complicit in the actual crime and aggressive about the forfeiture. Thats not freedom brah, no matter what you think about the means the revenue was obtained. Thats theft and it opens a door that could allow for unlimited avenues of forfeiture. What about the victims of El Chapos crimes? should they deserve first claims at restitution for the murdered family members? Or do you think the US govt deserves that money first? I don't know about there but courts here have victim surcharges on all prosecution and fines and that is what seized counterfeit assets and other proceeds of crime fund, victim restitution you Nazi Pig Dog ignoramus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Ebsell said: The US Government is going to do whatever it wants. Same as always, after all they are basically the biggest crime syndicate in the world Well you are right, however as citizens we SHOULD be outraged. The govt can make criminals out of anyone whos stuff they want. That is NOT what our govt was founded upon in fact that is the exact OPPOSITE of what our republic was found upon. We may as well proclaim a king and let the law be whatever they say it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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