Cat45 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Our governemnt did the same thing to native children. Absolutely they did, probly every govt did. My point is he acts like ca is lilly white innocent can't do anything wrong and the us is the most evil place ever. Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, HSR said: Sometimes too much freedom is a bad thing. No it is not. But it does come with a cost. Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, HSR said: How many children have to die for your rights to have guns? What is an acceptable number per year in your mind? 10?20?100? Just give me a number nothing else in your response, JUST A NUMBER!!! In the perfect world 0 . But the gun is just the delivery method . Comparing murder stats from MA to NH will show that. 1 Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Rigid1 said: Honestly I feel it's the government dole is what causes it not having to work the lack of ambition-they just wait on a monthly check Nothing to look forward to or be proud of, no sense of accomplishment from earning what you have- they just wait on a monthly check. They don't respect life because they don't respect their own. No reason to exist. 1 Quote
Jerry 976 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:00 AM, Badger** said: Someone needs to look in the mirror. Badger** Said: 8 hours ago, HSR said: You just owned yourself again. Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Not greg b said: I find it interesting the big old gun battle/mass shooting that went on last night in Minneapolis area didn’t make the news. Probably because it didn’t involve a school, children and white people. I already explained that. Black people matter every other yr from sept to the second tuesday in november Quote
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 28, 2023 Gold Member Posted March 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: In the perfect world 0 . But the gun is just the delivery method . Comparing murder stats from MA to NH will show that. Mass has the lowest gun death rate in the country. https://vpc.org/state-firearm-death-rates-ranked-by-rate-2021/ Quote
Badger** Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 800renegaderider said: Mass has the lowest gun death rate in the country. https://vpc.org/state-firearm-death-rates-ranked-by-rate-2021/ I wonder how many of those are from suicide, Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 800renegaderider said: Mass has the lowest gun death rate in the country. https://vpc.org/state-firearm-death-rates-ranked-by-rate-2021/ correct, yet the murder rate is usualy twice , some yrs 3 times as high as mass. All their gun laws did was force criminals and crazies to choose a diferent meathod to kill . It did nothing to stop the unexplainable reason why Americans are hellbent on killing each other. Who knows, maybe it is from watching the gvmt do it for so long they just figure they will cut out the middleman and do it themselves. Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: Mass has the lowest gun death rate in the country. https://vpc.org/state-firearm-death-rates-ranked-by-rate-2021/ List of U.S. states and territories by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia Quote
ArcticCrusher Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 So the OP is wrong once again and this has nothing to do with resentment, just pure hate driven. 1 Quote
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 28, 2023 Gold Member Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Badger** said: I wonder how many of those are from suicide, mass is still lower NH 8.2 MA 1.8 Table with 4 columns and 50 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 50. State Number of Firearm Law Provisions Rate of Suicide by Firearm Rate of Other Suicides Idaho 1 15.1 8.2 Mississippi 2 9.3 4.6 Missouri 2 11.2 7.0 Alaska 3 17.8 9.7 Montana 4 15.8 10.2 South Dakota 5 9.6 11.4 Wyoming 5 20.9 9.6 Georgia 6 8.5 5.2 Kentucky 6 11.0 6.7 Kansas 7 10.4 8.0 Arizona 8 10.4 7.2 Oklahoma 8 13.2 8.7 New Hampshire 9 8.2 8.2 Alabama 10 10.5 5.4 North Dakota 10 10.5 7.8 Arkansas 11 11.5 7.5 Maine 11 8.8 7.5 Indiana 12 8.7 6.4 South Carolina 12 10.3 6.0 Virginia 13 7.7 5.8 Ohio 15 7.2 6.5 Utah 15 10.8 10.0 Texas 18 7.8 5.6 West Virginia 18 11.5 7.9 Louisiana 19 8.5 5.3 Vermont 20 10.2 7.9 Michigan 21 7.1 6.9 Nevada 21 11.1 7.1 Nebraska 22 7.0 7.9 New Mexico 22 13.7 10.4 Tennessee 22 10.5 6.7 Wisconsin 23 7.2 7.4 Iowa 24 8.0 10.0 Colorado 30 10.8 10.8 Florida 30 6.9 6.2 North Carolina 30 7.9 5.4 Pennsylvania 39 6.5 6.1 Oregon 40 9.6 8.6 Minnesota 41 6.0 7.1 Delaware 42 5.6 6.6 Washington 49 7.7 7.6 Rhode Island 54 2.7 5.8 Illinois 69 4.1 6.5 Maryland 69 4.1 5.2 New York 77 2.1 5.9 Hawaii 80 2.1 10.9 New Jersey 80 1.8 5.3 Connecticut 91 2.7 6.6 Massachusetts 103 1.8 6.6 California 111 3.6 6.4 Quote
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 28, 2023 Gold Member Posted March 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: correct, yet the murder rate is usualy twice , some yrs 3 times as high as mass. All their gun laws did was force criminals and crazies to choose a diferent meathod to kill . It did nothing to stop the unexplainable reason why Americans are hellbent on killing each other. Who knows, maybe it is from watching the gvmt do it for so long they just figure they will cut out the middleman and do it themselves. NH has one of the lowest crime rates in the US. Mass not so much criminals bring violence. That’s probably more a policy issue being more lenient on crime in mass or it’s just that miserable living in mass they need to kill each other 🤷♂️. Quote
Advertising Member Seatofmypants Posted March 28, 2023 Advertising Member Posted March 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: mass is still lower NH 8.2 MA 1.8 Table with 4 columns and 50 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 50. State Number of Firearm Law Provisions Rate of Suicide by Firearm Rate of Other Suicides Idaho 1 15.1 8.2 Mississippi 2 9.3 4.6 Missouri 2 11.2 7.0 Alaska 3 17.8 9.7 Montana 4 15.8 10.2 South Dakota 5 9.6 11.4 Wyoming 5 20.9 9.6 Georgia 6 8.5 5.2 Kentucky 6 11.0 6.7 Kansas 7 10.4 8.0 Arizona 8 10.4 7.2 Oklahoma 8 13.2 8.7 New Hampshire 9 8.2 8.2 Alabama 10 10.5 5.4 North Dakota 10 10.5 7.8 Arkansas 11 11.5 7.5 Maine 11 8.8 7.5 Indiana 12 8.7 6.4 South Carolina 12 10.3 6.0 Virginia 13 7.7 5.8 Ohio 15 7.2 6.5 Utah 15 10.8 10.0 Texas 18 7.8 5.6 West Virginia 18 11.5 7.9 Louisiana 19 8.5 5.3 Vermont 20 10.2 7.9 Michigan 21 7.1 6.9 Nevada 21 11.1 7.1 Nebraska 22 7.0 7.9 New Mexico 22 13.7 10.4 Tennessee 22 10.5 6.7 Wisconsin 23 7.2 7.4 Iowa 24 8.0 10.0 Colorado 30 10.8 10.8 Florida 30 6.9 6.2 North Carolina 30 7.9 5.4 Pennsylvania 39 6.5 6.1 Oregon 40 9.6 8.6 Minnesota 41 6.0 7.1 Delaware 42 5.6 6.6 Washington 49 7.7 7.6 Rhode Island 54 2.7 5.8 Illinois 69 4.1 6.5 Maryland 69 4.1 5.2 New York 77 2.1 5.9 Hawaii 80 2.1 10.9 New Jersey 80 1.8 5.3 Connecticut 91 2.7 6.6 Massachusetts 103 1.8 6.6 California 111 3.6 6.4 Suicide is illegal.....correct? Quote
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 800renegaderider said: NH has one of the lowest crime rates in the US. Mass not so much criminals bring violence. That’s probably more a policy issue being more lenient on crime in mass or it’s just that miserable living in mass they need to kill each other 🤷♂️. NH also has an older population. Older folks tend to have less of a desire to kill one another. Quote
Cold War Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Not greg b said: I find it interesting the big old gun battle/mass shooting that went on last night in Minneapolis area didn’t make the news. Probably because it didn’t involve a school, children and white people. Thank God the media shields the public of what happens in a day here. Most would be physically ill if they had watch this night after night. Quote
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted March 28, 2023 Gold Member Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Seatofmypants said: Suicide is illegal.....correct? No I don’t think so but I really have no idea Quote
SkisNH Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: mass is still lower NH 8.2 MA 1.8 Table with 4 columns and 50 rows. Currently displaying rows 1 to 50. State Number of Firearm Law Provisions Rate of Suicide by Firearm Rate of Other Suicides Idaho 1 15.1 8.2 Mississippi 2 9.3 4.6 Missouri 2 11.2 7.0 Alaska 3 17.8 9.7 Montana 4 15.8 10.2 South Dakota 5 9.6 11.4 Wyoming 5 20.9 9.6 Georgia 6 8.5 5.2 Kentucky 6 11.0 6.7 Kansas 7 10.4 8.0 Arizona 8 10.4 7.2 Oklahoma 8 13.2 8.7 New Hampshire 9 8.2 8.2 Alabama 10 10.5 5.4 North Dakota 10 10.5 7.8 Arkansas 11 11.5 7.5 Maine 11 8.8 7.5 Indiana 12 8.7 6.4 South Carolina 12 10.3 6.0 Virginia 13 7.7 5.8 Ohio 15 7.2 6.5 Utah 15 10.8 10.0 Texas 18 7.8 5.6 West Virginia 18 11.5 7.9 Louisiana 19 8.5 5.3 Vermont 20 10.2 7.9 Michigan 21 7.1 6.9 Nevada 21 11.1 7.1 Nebraska 22 7.0 7.9 New Mexico 22 13.7 10.4 Tennessee 22 10.5 6.7 Wisconsin 23 7.2 7.4 Iowa 24 8.0 10.0 Colorado 30 10.8 10.8 Florida 30 6.9 6.2 North Carolina 30 7.9 5.4 Pennsylvania 39 6.5 6.1 Oregon 40 9.6 8.6 Minnesota 41 6.0 7.1 Delaware 42 5.6 6.6 Washington 49 7.7 7.6 Rhode Island 54 2.7 5.8 Illinois 69 4.1 6.5 Maryland 69 4.1 5.2 New York 77 2.1 5.9 Hawaii 80 2.1 10.9 New Jersey 80 1.8 5.3 Connecticut 91 2.7 6.6 Massachusetts 103 1.8 6.6 California 111 3.6 6.4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate#List Not on this table.. 1 Quote
Voodoo Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: So the OP is wrong once again and this has nothing to do with resentment, just pure hate driven. Don't discount hate. It is a powerful motivator, and religion breeds it like rabbits. Quote
ArcticCrusher Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Don't discount hate. It is a powerful motivator, and religion breeds it like rabbits. Our governments have eclipsed whatever hate you believe is driven by religion. Its not even close. 1 Quote
Voodoo Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Our governments have eclipsed whatever hate you believe is driven by religion. Its not even close. Sure, I dislike much of what our governments do, however I draw a line well short killing innocent children. I'd need the government to up their game 10 fold. Religious nuts kill kiddies without thought. Quote
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Posted March 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Badger** said: In Europe they take care of people with mental issues, in the US we put them in a corner and forget about them. That's where the real issues are. Honestly, do you want to give up your guns because someone went nuts?? You're assuming we always know who has mental issues. Look at the Las Vegas shooter for example. Quote
ArcticCrusher Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Voodoo said: Sure, I dislike much of what our governments do, however I draw a line well short killing innocent children. I'd need the government to up their game 10 fold. Religious nuts kill kiddies without thought. Your government did that with Covid shots. Your government also took those kids away from their parents. But remember back then the natives were considered savages so it was OK right. Place the blame where the blame belongs. Edited March 28, 2023 by ArcticCrusher Quote
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