Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 26, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted March 26, 2023 The way is cleared for the EU to ban cars from 2035 that run on petroleum that is not carbon neutral. EV’s and vehicles that run on Efuels only from 2035 and beyond. https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-strikes-deal-with-eu-on-combustion-engine-phase-out/a-65120095 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 4 hours ago, BOHICA said: The way is cleared for the EU to ban cars from 2035 that run on petroleum that is not carbon neutral. EV’s and vehicles that run on Efuels only from 2035 and beyond. https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-strikes-deal-with-eu-on-combustion-engine-phase-out/a-65120095 How is electricity carbon neutral? Secondly, EV start with a bigger carbon footprint than ICE...the guy that buys a new car every 3 years will never be better for the environment buying evs than ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Things have been going swimmingly for the Rads recently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 They can write all the laws that they want. Just like Germany went down the road of renewables only to discover that they won't work with Germany's geography. This stuff is all pipe dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 hours ago, BOHICA said: The way is cleared for the EU to ban cars from 2035 that run on petroleum that is not carbon neutral. EV’s and vehicles that run on Efuels only from 2035 and beyond. https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-strikes-deal-with-eu-on-combustion-engine-phase-out/a-65120095 Lol so tell the class how Germany is currently making its electricity and why they are making thete electricity like they are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 27, 2023 Author Gold Member Share Posted March 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Lol so tell the class how Germany is currently making its electricity and why they are making thete electricity like they are ? Will you take screen shots as a source? if not here is a link. This page has links to where this data comes from if you are interested. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-consumption-and-power-mix-charts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 27, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 27, 2023 The problem with renewable energy remains cost. We are trying to get developing nations to leapfrog to renewables when its not sustainable. The renewables are more expensive to put in then on top of that you have to have non-renewable backups in many cases. Look at the geopolitical alignment going on right now and who is on which side? https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/06/the-reason-renewables-cant-power-modern-civilization-is-because-they-were-never-meant-to/?sh=4f6302d0ea2b But no amount of marketing could change the poor physics of resource-intensive and land-intensive renewables. Solar farms take 450 times more land than nuclear plants, and wind farms take 700 times more land than natural gas wells, to produce the same amount of energy. Efforts to export the Energiewende to developing nations may prove even more devastating. The new wind farm in Kenya, inspired and financed by Germany and other well-meaning Western nations, is located on a major flight path of migratory birds. Scientists say it will kill hundreds of endangered eagles. “It’s one of the three worst sites for a wind farm that I’ve seen in Africa in terms of its potential to kill threatened birds,” a biologist explained. In response, the wind farm’s developers have done what Europeans have long done in Africa, which is to hire the organizations, which ostensibly represent the doomed eagles and communities, to collaborate rather than fight the project. Kenya won't be able to “leapfrog” fossil fuels with its wind farm. On the contrary, all of that unreliable wind energy is likely to increase the price of electricity and make Kenya’s slow climb out of poverty even slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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