Where is Russia getting their weapons?

[spin_dry]

Poor vlad. This is just the opening salvo of how he’s getting owned by China. 
 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by spin_dry

[Carlos Danger]

Russia and China have a weird relationship when it comes to weapons.  Yes China has bought weapons from Russia but anything that China received and had a use for was copied and then made in China most times without Russia's approval.  The best example is the Chinese J11 and J15 which are direct copies of Russian jets to which Russia will no longer support because of Chinese intellectual property theft. Even the Chinese jets that were designed Domestically like the J20 have Russian clone engines and electronics. 

[spin_dry]

1 hour ago, Carlos Danger said:

Russia and China have a weird relationship when it comes to weapons.  Yes China has bought weapons from Russia but anything that China received and had a use for was copied and then made in China most times without Russia's approval.  The best example is the Chinese J11 and J15 which are direct copies of Russian jets to which Russia will no longer support because of Chinese intellectual property theft. Even the Chinese jets that were designed Domestically like the J20 have Russian clone engines and electronics. 

The Chinese clone engines are highly problematic. 

[Carlos Danger]

1 hour ago, spin_dry said:

The Chinese clone engines are highly problematic. 

Airplanes are a business that you need to pay your dues on before you can be successful. Just stealing tech is not enough to make it you need to have the people and culture around complicated systems that can only happen through time and failure.