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The average rate of return for a 401k from 2010 to 2016 was 14%.

From 1926 to 2017, government bonds returned 5.5% compounded annually, according to historical data from Ibbotson Associates. Large stocks returned 10.2% compounded annually during that same time, while small stocks returned 12.1%.

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Why would one not being taking anything out of principle?  

Some retirement experts claim to draw 4% of savings.   If you have a million saved that's $40K of which $30K comes from capital gains.  Principle decreasing slightly by year a  $1 million starting point would last a long, long time.

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

The average rate of return for a 401k from 2010 to 2016 was 14%.

From 1926 to 2017, government bonds returned 5.5% compounded annually, according to historical data from Ibbotson Associates. Large stocks returned 10.2% compounded annually during that same time, while small stocks returned 12.1%.

Pre tax dude.

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1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

Imagine a million bucks saved and it leads to 30k a year in 25 years. What’s 30K going to be worth in 25 years?

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/how-much-savings-you-need-for-30000-a-year-in-interest-at-retirement.html

 

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Is there a reason why the chart starts at age 40? Why not start it at age 18 or younger, same as when SS starts taking it. The real reason is the person making it had the numbers they wanted and worked backwards to get there.

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11 minutes ago, steve from amherst said:

Is there a reason why the chart starts at age 40? Why not start it at age 18 or younger, same as when SS starts taking it. The real reason is the person making it had the numbers they wanted and worked backwards to get there.

After paying off all the student loans.

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Maybe....just maybe we wouldn't need to keep throwing money at it if our govt stopped creating inflation but oh no moar money fixes everything!

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2 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

After paying off all the student loans.

If it takes you 15-18 years to pay off student loans you borrowed too much for the income you were expecting.   How about pounding out those loans and living a slightly less extravagant lifestyle until you do.  Another not my problem. 

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3 hours ago, Snake said:

SS is one of the worst plans for a retirement.

For anyone who has even a modicum of a clue, SS is play money.....

Very true, although I've read recently around 25% of Americans have nothing saved for retirement. Those people must be on the Ramen Noodle Retirement Plan. :lmao:

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1 hour ago, snoughnut said:

Very true, although I've read recently around 25% of Americans have nothing saved for retirement. Those people must be on the Ramen Noodle Retirement Plan. :lmao:

UNFORTUNATLY IT IS A PONZI SCEME THAT AT THIS POINT HAS TO BE KEPT UP.

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6 hours ago, Highmark said:

Why would one not being taking anything out of principle?  

Some retirement experts claim to draw 4% of savings.   If you have a million saved that's $40K of which $30K comes from capital gains.  Principle decreasing slightly by year a  $1 million starting point would last a long, long time.

who the fucks going to retire off 40k a year.   fuck working your whole life to be in poverty at retirement,  people need to take personal responsibility not rely on SS as their retirement plan

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1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

who the fucks going to retire off 40k a year.   fuck working your whole life to be in poverty at retirement,  people need to take personal responsibility not rely on SS as their retirement plan

But many will not. They will piss away every penny they make and then some.

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1 hour ago, Angry ginger said:

who the fucks going to retire off 40k a year.   fuck working your whole life to be in poverty at retirement,  people need to take personal responsibility not rely on SS as their retirement plan

40K on top of SS isn't that terrible if you have little to no debt.   Can't expect going into retirement with large monthly payments on a home or vehicles. 

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