1jkw Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Please no more ppp money, I'm begging here A billionaire businessman in my area got between 40 and 50 million in PPP, the guy had been on the cover of Forbes multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 25, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, 1jkw said: A billionaire businessman in my area got between 40 and 50 million in PPP, the guy had been on the cover of Forbes multiple times. Disgusting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Disgusting The rich get richer and the rest of us get by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 hours ago, 1jkw said: Things are tough for lots of people right now, I'd say not as bad as 2020, but the stock market is higher now than it ever was under Trump and that seemed to be the measure before, maybe brandon needs to add 4.1 trillion in debt in 1 year and a 3 trillion deficit you seemed to think it was great before, maybe some more PPP or farm bailout money. Show me where I supported any of it, because I didn't. Again you failed to point out that while trump may have signed it, it was when dems had a majority and gave out as much as they could in free money. How many times did he negotiate to get that number lower, and pelosi and schumer didn't want it any lower and called him all kinds of names for rallying against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 26, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2023 What perpetuated the COVID spending more than the narrative that it was much more dangerous than they knew? I'll wait. Fact is if the scientific community was much more honest about the virus we wouldn't have shut down as much and not needed nearly the spending including PPP. The false narrative drove the spending. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 54 minutes ago, racer254 said: Show me where I supported any of it, because I didn't. Again you failed to point out that while trump may have signed it, it was when dems had a majority and gave out as much as they could in free money. How many times did he negotiate to get that number lower, and pelosi and schumer didn't want it any lower and called him all kinds of names for rallying against it. You constantly defend the guy who signed all of it and you were shown right here on this site where he said he wanted more, he alone caused the farm bailout that was larger than the auto bailout you cried so long and hard about. It's very simple, maybe not as simple as you, but the blame or credit is laid at the feet of the president as his signature seals the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, 1jkw said: You constantly defend the guy who signed all of it and you were shown right here on this site where he said he wanted more, he alone caused the farm bailout that was larger than the auto bailout you cried so long and hard about. It's very simple, maybe not as simple as you, but the blame or credit is laid at the feet of the president as his signature seals the deal. What ever you want to think, but you have 535 members on congress, the POTUS doesn't initiate any bill, they do. He just signs off and when is the last bailout that was NOT signed by a president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 18 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Disgusting It really is, very few people should have gotten PPP. Most of the slobs who took that money should have to pay it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, racer254 said: What ever you want to think, but you have 535 members on congress, the POTUS doesn't initiate any bill, they do. He just signs off and when is the last bailout that was NOT signed by a president? “He just signs off”….that’s the point FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: “He just signs off”….that’s the point FFS. They have all just SIGNED OFF. I am just saying place the blame where it lies. Lets all remember trump was against the Auto bailout, can everyone here say the same. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, racer254 said: They have all just SIGNED OFF. I am just saying place the blame where it lies. Lets all remember trump was against the Auto bailout, can everyone here say the same. I doubt it. Shows just how stupid you are, Trump against the auto bailout when he wasn't in office but had a bigger bailout when he was. What bailout cost more and what one was a total loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Shows just how stupid you are, Trump against the auto bailout when he wasn't in office but had a bigger bailout when he was. What bailout cost more and what one was a total loss? This is a futile discussion with you. 535 members, and the bailouts that trump signed were all after the midterms when DEMS and Pelosi took control. And let's not forget the COVID pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 hours ago, racer254 said: This is a futile discussion with you. 535 members, and the bailouts that trump signed were all after the midterms when DEMS and Pelosi took control. And let's not forget the COVID pandemic. Trumps farm bailout was before the midterms, it was more than the auto bailout you cried for years about, and zero dollars were paid back. Trump himself said he would have given more during the pandemic, let's not forget that little fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 26, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Trumps farm bailout was before the midterms, it was more than the auto bailout you cried for years about, and zero dollars were paid back. Trump himself said he would have given more during the pandemic, let's not forget that little fact. Donald was trying to buy votes after he tried to play tough with their Chinese market Such a great businessman to the tune of a 16 billion dollar bailout @racer254 did you buy your own knee pads or did Donald send you a pair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 27, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 27, 2023 @racer254 Can you explain your boy Gaetz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I gave you all the information to go look up anyone that got PPP loans. There was a bunch of fraud, just like in the election. Thanks for proving that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, SnowRider said: @racer254 Can you explain your boy Gaetz? How much did Pelosi get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 18 hours ago, SnowRider said: Donald was trying to buy votes after he tried to play tough with their Chinese market Such a great businessman to the tune of a 16 billion dollar bailout @racer254 did you buy your own knee pads or did Donald send you a pair And Biden was buy votes with student loan forgiveness, see how that works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 27, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, SnowRider said: @racer254 Can you explain your boy Gaetz? He took out the loan for Caregivers Inc. for which he is a shareholder. https://caregivershealth.com/ Edited January 27, 2023 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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