Wasn't going to buy a new sled this year with two dismal milage years but I fell in love with an XCR.  Only thing it has that I wouldn't have ordered is the 1.6 Cobra.   Coming off 3 sleds with the 1.35 cobra what am I to think of this?  If we get snow round home its never very deep.  Rode in 2ft of fresh pow in N Sconnie last winter and no complaints with the 1.35.  Debating having dealer swap for a 1.25 ice ripper.  IDK.....

If the dealer is reasonable enough to get you into a Ripsaw or the 1.352 cobra, it may be worth it .... but I think the 1.6 with a set of screw-in style studs (iGrips or Icemaster) would surprise you at how well it can work.

If you don't normally stud you will like it better....if you do then you won't.

I have never studded my sleds.  I think I will give it a go.  Can always trade it next spring.....LOL

If you want studs go with a Ripsaw 1.25" track with 1.450 studs.   The 1.6 is not a great track.  

6 hours ago, scottyr said:

If you want studs go with a Ripsaw 1.25" track with 1.450 studs.   The 1.6 is not a great track.  

Drunk skidoo guy says what????

Yep.  Ripsaw is completely useless. Backcountry is by far my favorite track without studs.

22 hours ago, poopooforme said:

I have never studded my sleds.  I think I will give it a go.  Can always trade it next spring.....LOL

Pretty easy to change the track in an evening so if you don't like it you are just a simple garage night away from a change

 

On 12/10/2022 at 6:06 AM, poopooforme said:

Drunk skidoo guy says what????

OK then.   I also have a 22 Indy 850 XC in my garage.    The 1.6 track sucks balls in just about all conditions.    I have had 2 sleds with it already.  

I had the 1.6 Cobra II on my 2014 Viper XTX 141, it was a great track.
Hooked up well but wasn't overbearing for trail riding.

Since this came back up to the top:  One of the guys in my club, unbeknownst to me, ordered his 2022 XCR with the 1.6 Cobra.  He loves it!  I have yet to put my butt on his seat to try it, but the guy can ride, and that little extra lug comes in handy in some deeper off trail stuff - he's proven that to me a couple times!

I really like my buddies as well.  Traction when you need it is great!

 

If I ever convince myself to snowcheck again, that track is going to be a serious consideration.  Riding locally this weekend, there was enough snow to make it "loose riding conditions" and I think that track would shine.  Even in harder packed trails, I think it would be just fine.  The only drawback would be WOT / racing type of stuff, which we rarely do anymore.

If you are planning on studding, I would go with the 1.352".  If no studs, either would be fine.  For studding the 1.352" Cobra was treated like a regular 1.25" track.  The 1.6" will be more like a 1.5" track.  Not that unreasonable in a trail track unless it is always hard pack or running lakes.

I have the Ice Ripper 1.5" now after coming from a 1.352" Cobra studded.  Lug height isn't a problem.  The best way to explain the the Ice Ripper is it's about half way between an unstudded and studded track.

I had an ice cobra on my Fusion. It worked well for on and off trail. Ended up going back down to an ice ripper though, when I took the 136 kit out of it. 

20 hours ago, Bontz said:

If I ever convince myself to snowcheck again, that track is going to be a serious consideration.  Riding locally this weekend, there was enough snow to make it "loose riding conditions" and I think that track would shine.  Even in harder packed trails, I think it would be just fine.  The only drawback would be WOT / racing type of stuff, which we rarely do anymore.

A 1.3+ Cobra studded is a great track.  

The 1.6 has far too much lug flick 

 

 

 

I loved the 1.6 on my Backcountry, very versatile track, a little slippery on the ice, so I used some carbide tipped Bergstrom screws.  Was about perfect for where we ride.