spin_dry Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, f7ben said: This is the reason I don’t by purebred breeds anymore. The “designer” breeds are much healthier overall The confirmation breeders have literally destroyed the breed. Many want the perfect dog. 60% of all dobes will drop dead by 7-8 years old. And when I say drop dead….they fall over dead with zero warning. 20 years ago could easily live 13-15 years with no health issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soeaster Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 We had to put Finnegan, our golden, down on 2/20... We got another year and a half longer than we thought we would, but still really sucks. He was the best dog I ever could have hoped for. We have another dog but she's pretty much the wife's. House is really empty now that he's gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The confirmation breeders have literally destroyed the breed. Many want the perfect dog. 60% of all dobes will drop dead by 7-8 years old. And when I say drop dead….they fall over dead with zero warning. 20 years ago could easily live 13-15 years with no health issues. Both my shelties did the same at 7 and 8 respectively 52 minutes ago, soeaster said: We had to put Finnegan, our golden, down on 2/20... We got another year and a half longer than we thought we would, but still really sucks. He was the best dog I ever could have hoped for. We have another dog but she's pretty much the wife's. House is really empty now that he's gone. Sorry man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Years ago my family had a Yellow lab and German Shepard mix. Probably the best dog me or my family ever had all the smarts of a shepherd but with the easy going nature of a lab. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 5, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 hours ago, spin_dry said: Lost my Doberman last weekend. Sudden cardiac event. She simply dropped dead where she was standing. Fucking dobes are ticking time bombs with their heart issues. It’s a one dog home now. sorry to hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 5, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, soeaster said: We had to put Finnegan, our golden, down on 2/20... We got another year and a half longer than we thought we would, but still really sucks. He was the best dog I ever could have hoped for. We have another dog but she's pretty much the wife's. House is really empty now that he's gone. So sorry.😔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 12/1/2022 at 5:01 PM, steve from amherst said: He is a big goof ball. Has the personality of a lab How about the hips hope that gets bread out of the shepherd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) Lots of dogs are having g heart issues now days . A lot of people are pointing at the grain free food . I stoped with that stuff after my last one dropped way to early . I litteraly make there food now . Every 2 mo I make a big batch and freeze it . Spent few hrs yesterday doing it Edited March 5, 2023 by Ez ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Ez ryder said: I litteraly make there food now . Every 2 mo I make a big batch and freeze it . Spent few hrs yesterday doing it Interesting , what do you use to make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted March 5, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 21 hours ago, spin_dry said: Lost my Doberman last weekend. Sudden cardiac event. She simply dropped dead where she was standing. Fucking dobes are ticking time bombs with their heart issues. It’s a one dog home now. Sorry to hear. Always sucks losing a pet. But I hope at least one of my dogs go the same way TBH. Haven’t been lucky enough to have a pet just tip over. Last one was rough at the house watching the executioner put her down. Won’t take them to the vet anymore and just have a mobile service come to house to do the deed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, HSR said: Interesting , what do you use to make it? We did the same for a few years. Use rice and vegetables and any protein you can get. We used pork steaks mostly. The proportions for their digestive system was like half rice and quarter veg and quarter meat or some shit. The problem is they need to eat a bit more of it volume wise and they shit a bit more often. We didn’t notice much of a difference in his health between that and his dry food and he doesn’t have much of a preference. I will say their coats are shinier and softer on the homemade food but that could have been my imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 5, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Ez ryder said: How about the hips hope that gets bread out of the shepherd Most times the cross breeding takes care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, HSR said: Interesting , what do you use to make it? Brown and white rice ground chicken ground turkey sometimes chicken breast and thigh when I hit it right at Costco. frozen carrots frozen sweet potato frozen green beens . Corn . And every day a little bit of dry kibble . Not much more money when a bag of food is north of 80 bucks . I get most of it in bulk at Costco. Kind of a pita but deff not good for anything to eat prosesed shit every day for there whole life . And life looks to be getting shorter for pets now days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 5, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: Brown and white rice ground chicken ground turkey sometimes chicken breast and thigh when I hit it right at Costco. frozen carrots frozen sweet potato frozen green beens . Corn . And every day a little bit of dry kibble . Not much more money when a bag of food is north of 80 bucks . I get most of it in bulk at Costco. Kind of a pita but deff not good for anything to eat prosesed shit every day for there whole life . And life looks to be getting shorter for pets now days How big of a bag ya buying for $80 ? I feed mine blue seal, about $1 a lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Just now, steve from amherst said: How big of a bag ya buying for $80 ? I feed mine blue seal, about $1 a lbs The big bag . And 80 is just a ballpark from the sensitive skin salmon stuff I get as supplement. And that bag lasts a long time because between the 2 less than 1/2 cup a day between them . Also cook a few eggs for them when I am having eggs so call it 2 times a week Also 1 of my dog had allergy shit for ever tried lots of diff foods . After started making it issues gone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Ez ryder said: Lots of dogs are having g heart issues now days . A lot of people are pointing at the grain free food . I stoped with that stuff after my last one dropped way to early . I litteraly make their food now . Every 2 mo I make a big batch and freeze it . Spent few hrs yesterday doing it The FDA did a multimillion dollar study and the result were interesting. It’s questionable if grain free foods are really the problem. It’s more probable that the combination high heat cooking combined with high starch content of some kibble was the cause. With Dobermans it’s more a genetic mutation involving two bio markers. The heart enlarges and the walls thin. The heart wall becomes so thin it can no contract and the dogs drops dead where they stand. There’s some very good kibble on the market. A brand like Orijin is a very good food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Several top breeders I know have found no difference between feeding dogs raw vs top brand kibble. They all keep meticulous records of all the dogs they bred. They record lifespan, food type, type of work if they’re a working dog. When I learned that I stopped the hassle of a raw diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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