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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

Unlimited fuel without the logistics to get it to where it’s needed efficiently. Plenty of weaponry? Sure, that’s why they’re outsourcing to Iran and N Korea and bringing out 50 year old tanks. Because they have plenty.

Again, wherever you are getting your intel you should stop listening to it. LOL 

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1 minute ago, Highmark said:

Simple knowledge of their current and past economy is enough for anyone to realize their military is not the powerhouse NATO likes to sell it as.

Great, the strategy all along must have worked. AND NO ONE expected this to have been botched so badly. So yeah, a lot has been learned in the past nine months about Russia’s capabilities.
 

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Sure they do but why do we? 

Some care about the international rule of law, and knocking down Russia.

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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

Great, the strategy all along must have worked. AND NO ONE expected this to have been botched so badly. So yeah, a lot has been learned in the past nine months about Russia’s capabilities.
 

Some care about the international rule of law, and knocking down Russia.

Well maybe if our IC was doing more to understand our "enemies" capabilities instead of investigating fake intelligence about a particular political candidate.

You keep telling yourself that the US "cares about international law."  :lol:  

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9 minutes ago, akvanden said:

We do when bundled with knocking down Russia a few pegs. :thumbsup:

Aren't we the self righteous ones letting little old Ukraine be destroyed and die against our so called enemy.  Might not want to look into our past too much 'Ol boy.   We aren't exactly saints. 

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Aren't we the self righteous ones letting little old Ukraine be destroyed and die against our so called enemy.  Might not want to look into our past too much 'Ol boy.   We aren't exactly saints. 

It’s Ukraine’s decision. They’re 100% providing the will to fight. Without that, our weapons we’re providing are useless.

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Just now, akvanden said:

It’s Ukraine’s decision. They’re 100% providing the will to fight. Without that, our weapons we’re providing are useless.

Ah yes the common man loses this life...literally while the Ukrainian politicians line their pockets with our money.   How amazing.   Did you ever wonder why so many of our politicians and govt refuse to audit exactly where every penny we give them is going?  

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5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

It’s Ukraine’s decision. They’re 100% providing the will to fight. Without that, our weapons we’re providing are useless.

was it there descision to have the far right neo nazi's overthrow there elected government and have western puppets installed every since?

 

this was nato's choice, not the majority of the previous population that voted in there russian friendly government. 

 

basically, a proxy war against ukraine itself first by backing rebels, now a proxy war vs russia with the country of Ukraine used as a pawn.

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6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Ah yes the common man loses this life...literally while the Ukrainian politicians line their pockets with our money.   How amazing.

Yes, just as I’m sure you’d wish to have the means to fight if the US was invaded… right? 

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Just now, ZR800efi said:

was it there descision to have the far right neo nazi's overthrow there elected government and have western puppets installed every since?

 

this was nato's choice, not the majority of the previous population that voted in there russian friendly government. 

 

basically, a proxy war against ukraine itself first by backing rebels, now a proxy war vs russia with the country of Ukraine used as a pawn.

They gave up their nukes in the expectation NATO would line the ruling class' pockets protect the common man.  Foolish move to trust NATO.    

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1 minute ago, akvanden said:

Yes, just as I’m sure you’d wish to have the means to fight if the US was invaded… right? 

Fight to enrich the politicians and our own oligarchs?   Pass.   Fight to preserve our way of life?   Sign me up. 

Hate to break it to you but our way of life is already under attack both from outside and inside our own country. 

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Just now, Highmark said:

They gave up their nukes in the expectation NATO would line the ruling class' pockets protect the common man.  Foolish move to trust NATO.    

'WE MUST STAND FOR UKRAINE!!! RUSSIA IS THE CANCER PLAGUEING THE WORLD AND MUST BE STOPPED !!!!!'

 

'excellant. so we are going to reapply for membershi'

 

'WHOA WHOA WHOA THERE...you calm the fuck down. we never said that '

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5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Yes, just as I’m sure you’d wish to have the means to fight if the US was invaded… right? 

most who had the means fled immediately. some to russia. 

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22 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Fight to enrich the politicians and our own oligarchs?   Pass.   Fight to preserve our way of life?   Sign me up.

Weapons to repel invaders. Or are you saying you wouldn’t? Maybe you’d just like to welcome them? 

 

25 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Hate to break it to you but our way of life is already under attack both from outside and inside our own country

K. We’re talking about Ukraine and their will to fight.

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Our "allies" the Saudis are petitioning to join BRICS. What message does this send? 

My guess is oil producing countries dont really care for this new non fossil fuel world. Great news for us...

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/saudi-arabia/saudi-arabia-wants-to-join-brics-says-south-african-president-cyril-ramaphosa/articleshow/94990258.cms

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2 hours ago, Highmark said:

Fight to enrich the politicians and our own oligarchs?   Pass.   Fight to preserve our way of life?   Sign me up. 

Hate to break it to you but our way of life is already under attack both from outside and inside our own country. 

 

2 hours ago, akvanden said:

Weapons to repel invaders. Or are you saying you wouldn’t? Maybe you’d just like to welcome them? 

 

K. We’re talking about Ukraine and their will to fight.

Damn...you're brilliant. :lmao:

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1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Russians have fled to nearby countries resulting in an economic boom for those nations as they took their money with. More fuck ups by Vlad. 

ukraines power grid and infrastructure is destroyed.winters setting in.not good.

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