DriftBusta Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I got one buddy with a half ton Chevy diesel that gets like 28 mpg...@$5 change a gallon. Another one bought one of those Rivians, cool little rig, but nothing you can tow a couple sleds to Maine with. I need a 3/4 ton like a hole in the head, it gets around 14 mpg, but at least it takes regular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, Snake said: If you want to spend the rest of your adult life counting every mile, every kilowatt, have at it. By no means am I rich but things are good enough where I won't be worrying about shit like that. I am sure there are, and that's their deal. But I sure as hell didn't work my whole life to be CONSUMED by the thought of a few hundred dollars a month. At my age,I would be dead before a EV and solar panels would pay for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: I got one buddy with a half ton Chevy diesel that gets like 28 mpg...@$5 change a gallon. Another one bought one of those Rivians, cool little rig, but nothing you can tow a couple sleds to Maine with. I need a 3/4 ton like a hole in the head, it gets around 14 mpg, but at least it takes regular. If I recall,you bought that base model pipe line rig right. It’s out in the driveway printing money as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Oops. https://slate.com/technology/2022/06/electric-car-prices-tesla-ford-batteries-rare-metals.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 13, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Oops. https://slate.com/technology/2022/06/electric-car-prices-tesla-ford-batteries-rare-metals.html Old article…. Tax credits have been expanded. Rare earths are not part of the majority of modern EV batteries. Rare earths are used in petroleum refining. Oil industry is one of the largest consumers of rare earths. the stupidity of the republicans is staggering. It’s like they are all inbred or something with how dumb they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 This shit is almost as good as a boat launch. Just seen to two people arguing at the grocery store over a charging station spot https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=581513936308553 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/12/2022 at 10:49 AM, BOHICA said: Why would you make that comparison. Tesla aren’t cross shoppers of corollas or vice versa. 2 different class of vehicles. Why not compare a Corolla to a Bolt? Sun $30k priced cars. Both pretty much same build quality with Corolla coming on on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, BOHICA said: Old article…. Tax credits have been expanded. Rare earths are not part of the majority of modern EV batteries. Rare earths are used in petroleum refining. Oil industry is one of the largest consumers of rare earths. the stupidity of the republicans is staggering. It’s like they are all inbred or something with how dumb they are. My fusion 900 is the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Doug said: This shit is almost as good as a boat launch. Just seen to two people arguing at the grocery store over a charging station spot https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=581513936308553 All for the low low price of $70,000... OMFG... Sign me up!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 13, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 13, 2022 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAA-FXv5K0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 If I were younger, working and commuting, I’d have an EV. At this point in my life it’s just not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAA-FXv5K0 Now go watch the insane 7 and 8 hr lines outside the popular nat parks over the last few yrs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Why every 5th electric car owner returns to gasoline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 If ev so great why the tax credits.You want one you pay for it!!why the hell am i paying for your ev!! Also wind and solar at its lowest point at night and demand is going to flip and go up at night! Actually think hybrid way to go myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 14, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, X2700 said: If ev so great why the tax credits.You want one you pay for it!!why the hell am i paying for your ev!! Also wind and solar at its lowest point at night and demand is going to flip and go up at night! Actually think hybrid way to go myself! You are not paying for it unless you consider other peoples money as your own…. Fucking Democrat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BOHICA said: You are not paying for it unless you consider other peoples money as your own…. Fucking Democrat! its a tax credit correct? so its an amount you take off your taxes so basically your not paying your share of taxes? just wondering how this credit works? Hows the road tax getting figured in on ev's? Edited November 14, 2022 by X2700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 14, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, X2700 said: its a tax credit correct? so its an amount you take off your taxes so basically your not paying your share of taxes? just wondering how this credit works? Non refundable…. Meaning you have to have a tax obligations to take advantage. 53% of Americans pay no income taxes thanks to Trumps individual tax plan. 0% income tax obligations for 53% of all Americans. It’s just a favorable tax situation that some get to take advantage of. Kind of like itemizing and taking advantage of such things as mortgage interest deductions…. Not everybody can take advantage of mortgage interest deductions so those with mortgage interest are shifting tax burden to those without mortgage interest???? Another situation the same as EV tax credit is those that contribute to 401k’s…. Lowering there taxable income shifting the tax burden to other tax payers that may not be able to afford 401k’s???? Non refundable tax credits are just credits allowing individuals to keep more of their own money. It’s not nobody else’s money besides the individual that it applies too. Nobody else pays more cause of the tax credits of any kind. Edited November 14, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Someone’s going to pay for it one way or another. my point is that if ev such a good deal why the credit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, X2700 said: Someone’s going to pay for it one way or another. my point is that if ev such a good deal why the credit? Well, start with lobbyists with deep pockets and go from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 14, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, X2700 said: Someone’s going to pay for it one way or another. my point is that if ev such a good deal why the credit? Not you. Somebody else’s tax dollars is not your money…. Unless you are the AOC and the Squad type…. They like other’s money. Your taxes don’t go up because of somebody else non refundable tax credits and deductions. Your taxes likely went down with Trump tax plan. Those against any non refundable tax credits or deductions of individuals are those that want other peoples money and believe it belongs to them rather then the individual paying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, BOHICA said: Not you. Somebody else’s tax dollars is not your money…. Unless you are the AOC and the Squad type…. They like other’s money. Your taxes don’t go up because of somebody else non refundable tax credits and deductions. Your taxes likely went down with Trump tax plan. Those against any non refundable tax credits or deductions of individuals are those that want other peoples money and believe it belongs to them rather then the individual paying them. The government makes nothing. It produces nothing. It runs on basically theft from it's citizens. If the government has a dollar to give to someone, it has to come from somewhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 14, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Snake said: The government makes nothing. It produces nothing. It runs on basically theft from it's citizens. If the government has a dollar to give to someone, it has to come from somewhere else. Government doesn’t give people money on a non refundable tax credits and deductions…. They just steal less from the individual. I agree taxation is theft just like you. Edited November 14, 2022 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, BOHICA said: Government doesn’t give people money on a non refundable tax credit and deductions…. They just steal less from individual. I agree taxation is theft just like you. Where does the money that goes to the dealer/manufacturer come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 14, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Snake said: Where does the money that goes to the dealer/manufacturer come from. We are talking individual tax credits and deductions here…. EV tax credits to individuals is just the government stealing less from that individual. We agree taxation is straight up theft. Majority of individuals have nothing stolen from them and as you climb the income brackets the text increases…. no???? Business tax situations are a whole different and unrelated topic to what is being discussed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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