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2 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

You are still stuck in the wrong time period just like Mainecat. 

That is most of you Boomers biggest problem. 

Same old game Putin is playing. Same dumb stooges that believe it. Russians think it's a ridiculous lie. Then there's jimmy dore. 

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and lol @ people believeing ukraines winning. the media  in the states lied about vietnam too.'were winning guys!! send your kids over !!'

 

all these media outlets need to be in prison. all...pure..fucking ..lies.

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8 hours ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Well, if Putin had stayed on his side of fence, we wouldn't be talking about this. I don't recall Nato holding a gun to Putins head telling him to invade a sovereign country.

The US invades countries all the time. 

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10 hours ago, EvilBird said:

The Nazi's are real, and those people in that territory have been harassed, abused and killed for years by them. They speak Russian, they eat Russian food, they are Russian. 

This has nothing to do with territory expansion get that thru your head. 

 

Bullshit dude...he is looking to take back territories he feels.are.his through force.  That's what it's all about. His own words demonstrate this.

 

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19 hours ago, Anler said:

That's the whole point. This is supposed to be about evil Putin wanting to take over Europe and the brave Ukrainians are standing up to big bad Putin and giving him a proper thrashing!!!

But that's not the case at all. This is about western powers wanting to destroy Russia and Ukraine is the sacrificial lamb. NATO does not give two shits about Ukrainians, but that's who they are gonna hold up in your face so you will go thru the hyper inflation, energy shortages, food shortages, recession, and crashing economies till they get what they want. 

Putin taking over Europe? 
That is simply talking points of crazy people.

Don't listen to the crazies.

The inter webs are full of them. Ignore them, they are idiots.

I’d like to flap my arms and fly to the moon.

Fairley confident that’s not gonna happen either.

 

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As far as the tactical nukes, why don’t we deal the first blow?

We (NATO) could nuke a couple hundred thousand Russian troops in under an hour.

The war would be over in under an hour.

if we don’t care about Ukrainian soldiers and civilians..

Russian soldiers and civilians too…plus us that get the fallout 

It’s not as simple a game as the internet idiots make it out to be.

 

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2 minutes ago, Voodoo said:

As far as the tactical nukes, why don’t we deal the first blow?

We (NATO) could nuke a couple hundred thousand Russian troops in under an hour.

The war would be over in under an hour.

if we don’t care about Ukrainian soldiers and civilians..

It’s not as simple a game as the internet idiots make it out to be.

 

Nuke Russia for invading a country that over half of Americans cant point too on a map? 

no thanks :suicide:

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1 minute ago, EvilBird said:

Nuke Russia for invading a country that over half of Americans cant point too on a map? 

no thanks :suicide:

50% of Americans couldn’t point out Mexico or Canada on a map.

No offence, but %50 of Americans can’t understand that borrowing trillions of dollars and tossing it out like candy, causes inflation.

We are not much better.

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3 minutes ago, Voodoo said:

50% of Americans couldn’t point out Mexico or Canada on a map.

No offence, but %50 of Americans can’t understand that borrowing trillions of dollars and tossing it out like candy, causes inflation.

We are not much better.

America is the greatest country in the world. Only need to know where that is. 

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6 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

America is the greatest country in the world. Only need to know where that is. 

You actually are the greatest country in the world.

I’ve served with some of your soldiers. 

Top notch dudes, with good equipment.

We are top notch dudes, with good equipment….you just have 10x that 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Voodoo said:

You actually are the greatest country in the world.

I’ve served with some of your soldiers. 

Top notch dudes, with good equipment.

We are top notch dudes, with good equipment….you just have 10x that 
 

 

That is in itself a danger. We have it so fucking good here that we either want more or spin in our heads about losing what we already have. Fear is everywhere. Greed is everywhere. People looking for an external solution for an internal problem. 

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Reuters

Putin's defence minister should consider suicide, Russian-installed official says

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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FILE PHOTO: International military and technical forum Army 2022
Guy Faulconbridge and Felix Light
Thu, October 6, 2022 at 7:42 AM
 
 
By Guy Faulconbridge and Felix Light

LONDON (Reuters) -A Russian-installed official in Ukraine on Thursday suggested President Vladimir Putin's defence minister should consider killing himself due to the shame of the defeats in the Ukraine war, an astonishing public insult to Russia's top brass.

After more than seven months of war in Ukraine, Russia's most basic war aims are still not achieved while Russian forces have suffered a series of battlefield defeats in recent months, forcing Putin to announce a partial mobilisation.

In a four-minute video message, Kirill Stremousov, the Russian-installed deputy head of the annexed Kherson region, followed suit, publicly lambasting the "generals and ministers" in Moscow for failing to understand the problems on the front.

"Indeed, many say: if they were a defence minister who had allowed such a state of affairs, they could, as officers, have shot themselves," Stremousov, 45, said. "But you know the word 'officer' is an incomprehensible word for many."

Such public - and insulting - censure of Putin's military chiefs from within the system used to be extremely rare in Russia, but a series of defeats on the battlefield in Ukraine has prompted some of Putin's allies to rebuke top generals.

Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner Group of mercenaries, ridiculed generals, saying the military was riddled with nepotism and that senior officers should be stripped of their ranks and sent to the front barefoot to atone for their sins.

Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, one of Putin's closest allies, was appointed in 2012. So close was their relationship that the two men regularly spent holidays together in the forests and mountains of Shoigu's native Tuva.

It was not clear if the criticism was being coordinated, though it poses a problem for Putin during a crucial juncture in the war: sacrifice a close ally and admit the military has failed, or keep Shoigu and risk taking the blame himself.

The defence ministry did not respond to a written request for comment.

Many Russian nationalists have repeatedly criticised Shoigu and his top generals for everything from poor planning and shallow logistics to ruinously outdated tactics and losing the information war despite massive investment under Putin.

In the last week, two retired generals now serving as members of the State Duma from Putin's United Russia party have added their voice to the chorus of criticism, accusing the defence ministry of corruption and dishonesty.

Most of all, though, critics blame Shoigu's ministry for losing the key battles for Kyiv, Kharkiv, Lyman and in the Kherson region.

Stremousov laced his criticism with words of praise for the soldiers who stood to the death to defend their country, contrasting their heroism with the "incompetent military leaders" in Moscow.

"The ministry of defence does not consist only of ministers, generals, corrupt looters and other various scum, but all those heroes who gave their lives to defend Russia.

"Let's say this: The ministry of defence does not only consist of ministers, generals, corrupt marauders and other various scum, but all those heroes who gave their lives today, who stand to the end," Stremousov said.

Stremousov praised Kadyrov and said he felt that Moscow would soon sort out the problems.

"I agree with Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov, who raised this issue. Well done," he said.

"In Moscow, I think they will sort this out as soon as possible." Stremousov said. "We'll sort it out. We'll put things in order and, believe me, everything will be under our full control."

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Our weapons are simply amazing....no other way to describe it. We are totally head and shoulders ahead of the rest of world on advanced technology. We are looked upon with envy and now get a vision of our great weapons in action....WOW......our defense spending is worth every penny and should only be increased if anything.:ylsuper:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/10/05/new-types-of-ammunition-make-ukraines-himars-far-deadlier/

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4 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Our weapons are simply amazing....no other way to describe it. We are totally head and shoulders ahead of the rest of world on advanced technology. We are looked upon with envy and now get a vision of our great weapons in action....WOW......our defense spending is worth every penny and should only be increased if anything.:ylsuper:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/10/05/new-types-of-ammunition-make-ukraines-himars-far-deadlier/

Yeah lets waste it on saving a section of corrupt Ukraine so the Biden's can get back to funneling money via backdoor deals. :suicide:

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Just now, EvilBird said:

Yeah lets waste it on saving a section of corrupt Ukraine so the Biden's can get back to funneling money via backdoor deals. :suicide:

No shit. But THE GHOST OF KIEV!!!!!

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